@DThangGzZZZZZz@lu_cs2@TheCSTimes Casuals are just dumb, they shouldn't be used as an example of goat debates, they do not know nuance.
Otherwise, ScreaM or shroud might be the best of all time for some people just because they are popular.
@DThangGzZZZZZz@lu_cs2@TheCSTimes Give vitality 0 majors and the might still be the best of all time with the rest of their achievements.
Give vitality 2 majors and they already are.
Give vitality 3 or 4 majors, and they will not let anyone else touch their record.
@DThangGzZZZZZz@lu_cs2@TheCSTimes Vitality are already the greatest team of all time even if you remove their budapest major, whether they win 5 more or no more it won't change that fact.
@DThangGzZZZZZz@lu_cs2@TheCSTimes Moreover, Vitality has 2 grandslams b2b, Astralis has only one. Vitality have 2 katowices b2b, Astralis has only one. Vitality have cologne, Astralis have never won cologne. Vitality have 2 of the best streaks and a perfect season, Astralis doesnt have that.
@DThangGzZZZZZz@lu_cs2@TheCSTimes The Astralis era core has only 3 majors, otherwise Vita also has 3 majors but the one from 2023 doesn't count.
Vitality has 2 majors, 37-0 bo3 streak, 22-0 map streak, 2 grandslams, many other tournaments
Astralis have 3 majors, 1 grand slam, no top3 streak.
@Blayson3@XANIXr6@LuzRaposa zywoo has been the better player but that's REGARDLESS of the stats. Give donk the same team zywoo had for the first 4 months and he'd have better stats while playing the same way (though ZywOo would have been still better)
i.e. its dumb that you used stats as your argument
@SlayerKaraka_@KirigayaShimo she's a direct descendant of Lily's father then, who likely had an even stronger connection to the clan of D. or w/e happened during the void century.
@Thorin@roaldvanbuuren Viewership on average for CS has increased at least since the last 2 years. For valorant they have plummeted, whereas for LoL they have slightly increased too.
So it's dependant on the title I'd say.
@LuzRaposa can this be filtered only from matches where these riflers finished with exactly 20 kills? I feel like donk is punished by the sheer amount of kills he gets to have.