@WakeUpSleepies@Skeuleos@MatthewZ73671 but that is only informed by what you have acknowledged is a mind telling you it is.
You liking vanilla ice cream is a subjective taste. You disliking soccer is subjective preference. Morality is no different!
@WakeUpSleepies@Skeuleos@MatthewZ73671 moral and immoral stemmed from his mind.
Then when you ran out of road on the claimed source of objective moral truth, you then claimed objective truth can't exist without objective morality.
Simply no. It may be objectively true that you THINK rape is objectively immoral
@WakeUpSleepies@Skeuleos@MatthewZ73671 No you idiot, objective truths exist, morality just hasn't been demonstrated to be one of them. Morality =/= truth
@shaunsomers@Wh4th3fu@conservmillen OK but that extra work has been consented to by virtue of the parents carrying the baby to term & being birthed.
A mother who is currently carrying a foetus & supporting their development hasn't necessarily fully consented to her body being utilised for full foetal development
@shaunsomers@conservmillen Well presumably that person is doing so consensually?
It's the *combination* of the foetus never having been conscious and depending on another person's body that entitles the mother to choose whether or not to terminate a foetus' pregnancy or not. A born baby is conscious
@SoupOfToday@AliaRainine@Hestia_Esq@CosbyKing89 So am I summarising this correctly - other people are "trash" BC they're not taking a path of learning & growth that you value but they may not at that stage of their life?
So your wants trump theirs? Doesn't that sound like a rather selfish mindset?
@Sapientia400@DerekPederson3@BradMarrs298068 If you had described it as a "killing" that would be valid. But you picked a precise legal term and so you should be more careful when you choose what words to use
@Sapientia400@DerekPederson3@BradMarrs298068 I haven't cherry picked anything. Those were the first two results I found, one of them being a reputable dictionary
No the definition is not useless. It accurately describes situations in which someone commits an unlawful & premeditated killing against another human
@WakeUpSleepies@Skeuleos@MatthewZ73671 Subjective means "mind dependent". If god also has a mind, then everything he's commanded moral/immoral is based on his subjective preferences & feelings.
For it to be objective it has to be mind independent.