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@norbertbodziony @justinbrett1975 @OpenBot_ Are there premium features (even if we host locally)?

[eulahwu @eulahwu971]

@SedaArshia @bot I agree, I think people should build their stack to be agent agnostic, never rely on a single agent platform. There will always be new and better tools, so an easy to swap the user facing layer is key.

[eulahwu @eulahwu971]

@OpenBot_ is my daily driver now and kind impressed. Specially for Mobile, it's simple like Grok @bot but there are some really cool features and you can diy a bit like Hermes. Plus the mobile Android App is actually really good.

And I'm sure @norbertbodziony like things very well organized.

[eulahwu @eulahwu971]

@Jtyles @grok @elonmusk I have a feeling, @elonmusk is waiting for Grok 4.8 or 5, to replace Opus 5.5 (or whatever model is running now - it's so dumb right now, that can't be Opus 5.5). If Grok 4.8 or 5 is more efficient then it would be a win, if not, then Grok Bot will be stuck in this limbo.

[eulahwu @eulahwu971]

And that's it, fully migrated from @bot to @OpenBot_ . Also cancelled my @bot subscription.

[eulahwu @eulahwu971]

After testing around, @OpenBot_ is the winner - I see a lot of cool projects coming right now, but OpenBot is the most mature one right now.

With all that being said, more than ever I recommend people building their stack to be as agent agnostic as possible, so you can just change the front-layer agent as you wish.

[eulahwu @eulahwu971]

@0xAlan_ @poteto 💯

[eulahwu @eulahwu971]

@0xAlan_ @elonmusk Thing is, it's the lack of communication. Changed Usage, changed Model without saying a single word. Just feels like being rug pulled for anyone that built all their automations around Grok @bot .

[eulahwu @eulahwu971]

If you think about it, @ddofinternet is the OG of doom-scrolling.

[eulahwu @eulahwu971]

@mattyp Anything but fixing the usage....

[eulahwu @eulahwu971]

@RikNieu Very likely....

[eulahwu @eulahwu971]

@Texas_Twins_Dad How was usage?

[eulahwu @eulahwu971]

Actually - I do like the stuff you guys are cooking, here is my feedback:

- Too much On-boarding, should be login with Claude/GPT, and have the Bot help you set-up - that's what most Bots App are doing;
- I like the channel style, I used to use Slack a lot, and how you can control if a Bot replies in-thread or in the channel;
- I like the idea of the Wiki/Vault in one place - but for some reason I couldn't get to work properly? I pointed towards my Obsidian Vault, and just wouldn't show anything;
- Love how Routines show as a "Calendar Style", but if a Routine Workflow is much more complex, then it gets hard to manage, take a look on how OpenBot does their flow, easier to see what needs to happen;
- I run everything locally, so should be a way in the App to set-up Webhook Locally (not sure if it's possible);
- Potentially, if you guys can make the side-bar more modular, where I can create something catered for my business and so on - it would be great.

But overall good experience right now.

Also shoutout to Brazil!

[eulahwu @eulahwu971]

Been testing Grok @bot replacements, my initial feelings (all on Linux - Ubuntu):

@OpenBot_ : Probably one of the most complete out there? And I love how routines have a map/flow editor. However, I don't like how it still use turn-based conversations and not as snappy.

@mausbot_ : Very snappy and well built, probably feels like more Grok Bot then others, just doesn't have Mobile App yet.

@tucanosh : Very different take into the bot area, feels like a combination of Slack/Wiki (Vault Knowledge) all in together, but too much on-boarding. UI/UX is clean and nice!

@reasonmachines: Couldn't get to work... it wouldn't connect to my ChatGPT/Claude accounts - very weird for a YC backed company. Plus also asked for an account and credit card right off the bat?

Will further test OpenBot/ Open Maus Bot/ Tucano. But leaning more towards Open Maus and Tucano right now.

Any more to try?

[eulahwu @eulahwu971]

@bot @OpenBot_ Ultimately, after today's Grok @bot model change (for sure it changed), I'm way more confident that any Bot App, needs to give control to which model you are using.

[eulahwu @eulahwu971]

Has anyone tried @reasonmachines? How does it compare to OpenBot/ Grok Bot?

[eulahwu @eulahwu971]

@CyberFarmerX Yes, behavior and intelligence totally changed. This is not Opus 5.5 anymore.

[eulahwu @eulahwu971]

That's it for me, Grok @bot Usage is so bad, and their behavior and intelligence totally changed today, there's no way this is Opus 5.5. Time to move on.

Honestly, very disappointed with the lack of communication from SpaceXAI Team.