@BrentScher These are indian "students" here trying to obtain h1b/green card/j1/opt status via getting fake masters degrees , which is America's pay to play system before you can work for some shitty fortune 500 writing garbage j2ee code or configuring poisonous SAP/Oracle systems
@AuronMacintyre Its not bad enough. Conditions need to get worse. Before that typically happens some massive form of gibs usually resets the clock. Life for most by historical standards is quite high and there's plenty of cheap and easy dopamine hits to forget about the bad.
@shagbark_hick That's not bad and the woodland variant gets you up to 7 apparently. But it's so long I think that could create issues in some situations. Seems great otherwise