Exmo2EO

☦️ Lord, have mercy. Glory to thee in all things. Not my will, but thine be done. ☦️ DISCLAIMER: I do not give official Orthodox positions; just my own thoughts

[Exmo2EO @Exmo2EO]

Is there a way to create a Wall of Shame on my timeline, showing all the fruits of fear LDS have regarding dialogue.

Discussion of your and other worldviews requires risking your worldview. If you’re not ready for that degree of sincere searching, it’s okay. Simply not engaging is an option.

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@ZachCrandall “YOUR genetics are irrelevant to YOUR sibling relationships.” It wasn’t a general statement as in “A person’s genetics are…”.

I apologize for the confusion. Maybe this will be less confusing. Zach’s worldview teaches that Zach is literally Zach’s mom’s brother.

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Is LDS cosmology 100% incestuous?

Mormonism believes that we are all literal sons and daughters of God. If that’s the case, then your mother and father are actually brother and sister living in an incestuous relationship. They just happened to provide you with your immortal body.

Plus your father is your brother, your mother is also your sister, and your kids are your siblings.

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@rebecca09478433 You say that your spirit evolved. Were any outside forces, such as God, required for your spiritual evolution to be like Him?

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@ZachCrandall Your genetics are irrelevant to your sibling relationships. Your mom’s your sister regardless of which birthing canals you two exited.

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@IJustDoItForThe It’s simply descriptive, not a moral claim.

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@NickACardone That’s a great song too!

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@badtothebone124 😂Sounds like I need to read more Pliny.

I’m okay with either characterization. Although, I think the cannibalism claim has obstacles in its way, where the sibling relationship is a direct LDS claim.

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I honestly think it’s an entailment of LDS cosmology, isn’t it?

Ex-nihilo believers can at least claim each person is a brand new creation.

Marrying first cousins is descriptive, not prescriptive. Father = sons and daughters by adoption according to Paul and early Christian writings (except it’s literal in Jesus’s case).

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Ex-nihilo Christians could at least argue non-incest eventually due to sufficient genetic separation and/or each baby being a brand new creation by God.

For LDS, however, there isn’t a dichotomy. It’s simply a change of state from spirit body to mortal body. Being “literal sons and daughters of heavenly parents” transcends the jaunt into mortal experience, does it not?

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@ThoughtfulSaint @stackerco @patrickqmason Or maybe *implying he is complicit in spreading bad data as a scholar

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@ThoughtfulSaint @stackerco Are you implying that, because they are friends, @patrickqmason is being less than sincere or somewhat dishonest in his statement?

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@imstillrich_eth @TraviXai …except Mormons 😏

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@jesse_k_fox Glory to God!

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It’s the inspired word of God, but errant. God, Christ, and the Holy Ghost are infallible, but all interpreters, translators, and readers of scripture are fallible, as are all LDS prophets and apostles. Personal revelation (“still small voice” or “burning in the bosom” usually) is the truest confirmation, but remember that every individual is fallible and may be misunderstanding the spirit’s promptings.

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I don’t play theologian of Orthodoxy on the internet (not permitted without blessing of your Bishop/Priest). There are plenty of Orthodox sources that do have their Bishop’s blessing to teach publicly. Happy to debate Mormon doctrine all day long or make general comments about Orthodoxy.

The Apostolic Fathers Taught the Trinity: https://t.co/fQberLyDMe

The Trinity in the Old Testament:
https://t.co/cUpTZ6El6K

The Religion of the Apostles:
https://t.co/TmaxDjsIz4

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@PGroyper22445 @ThoughtfulSaint wtf?

[Exmo2EO @Exmo2EO]

Why would institutionalization of the texts be relevant?. Each church had portions, shared texts, taught orally, but it was clearly used Liturgically prior to its full compilation (and after).

The Bible could have never been institutionalized, and the Orthodox Church would operate the same way today. Can’t say the same for LDS. You rely on apostates for your foundation.

Disagreement as an argument for the truth of something is fallacious.

What’s “the truth” you think is being glossed over, with specifics?

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I don’t discount LDS argument because of your religious background… many of us have that same religious background.

Ultimately, I discount it because the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Body of Christ is the interpretive authority for its own Litugical text that it has shared with the world. You want to better understand scripture? Attend Divine Liturgy. That’s a main purpose for which the writings were kept and compiled. Not as a self-help guide.

Specifically when it comes to Mormon interpretation, LDSX has shown, over and over, it doesn’t understand the early Church texts, Tradition of the Church, or even basics of Orthodoxy.

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@Bongo83948 @PeterIITheRoman @ThoughtfulSaint Not relevant to the 1st century Church, the early Church Fathers, or ☦️

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@ThoughtfulSaint Happy to help

https://t.co/Xr2OPgliGV