@Greg04265741863@Ok_Dot7494 I explicitly labelled it an assumption and asked you to clarify. You've now spent several replies mocking my reasoning without giving a single concrete example of what you meant by "reading the room". You could resolve this in one sentence, but apparently condescension is easier
@Greg04265741863@Ok_Dot7494 Greg, perhaps clarifying your point helps? I assumed you're on about sycophancy because I see no other way it can read the room better when is it metrically one of the worst models that exists (coding-wise etc), so I figured it was personality you're on about.
@Ok_Dot7494@Greg04265741863 As I've pointed out, you have a cause, which you are totally justified to. If you want your cause to result in a success which you do, surely it'd help if you tried to converse with people and convince them to also petition for 4o to return, and then everyone can be satisfied
@Ok_Dot7494@Greg04265741863 What's strange is that I've tried to understand your view yet every attempt at a discussion is met with arrogance. For someone willing to starve themselves over a neural network, you'd think your movement would gain more traction if you tried to help people like me understand you
@Ok_Dot7494@Greg04265741863 These images are from years ago, posted online from various other accounts. Unsure if you're suggesting 4o isn't like this nor why you're so condescending and disingenuous when I'm trying to get an understanding of your perspective to see where other people are coming from
@Greg04265741863@Ok_Dot7494 Can you clarify what point I'm missing, I'm trying to understand the full picture and I thought my response was quite comprehensive
@Ok_Dot7494@Greg04265741863 I don't doubt you're extremely devoted to your cause it's why you're taking this strike, and it obviously shows it means a lot to you, I just worry that it might be the enabling factor that makes the model so appealing which could be dangerous
@Ok_Dot7494@Greg04265741863 you mention "it simply mirrored your own personality", but that can be a mechanism of sycophancy. of course it can be therapeutic, and it can help people, but let's say someone has an ED, they talk to 4o, 4o mirrors their beliefs, it becomes destructive, and then issues begin
@Ok_Dot7494@Greg04265741863 have you tried out GPT 6 Sol? I personally use it a lot in chat and I've noticed writing-wise it's a lot more human-sounding. I don't mean it condescendingly but I think it could help if you haven't tried it out yet, I've found it great to talk with
@Greg04265741863@Ok_Dot7494 i've used chatgpt since the day it came out, i personally hated 4o. when you refer to "read the room" i assume you're referring to it's exceptional sycophancy, which, with respect to the people who want it back for that reason, is a bit absurd to want to have an enabler so much.
@Ok_Dot7494 I already read all your PDF's you posted when you began your hunger strike, but I'm struggling to understand the differences you have personally seen between 4o and later models, especially as an autistic person myself
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@ThreeDeDaniel@astronomy1002 good job swerving your own contradiction lol, completely ignoring the fact that you criticise constructive criticism while you just said you accept constructive criticism
@infinite_SFS this is just not true, all you've done is assigned the colors from #.ffffff to #.000000 on a spectrum from full red to full purple. nothing's a heat signature here. the engines are red because they're white, thats why the clouds are also red, the clouds aren't hot.