The cheapest bot on paper isn't the cheapest in practice.
We measured 17,121 real fills on Solana. GMGN's users get filled ~75bps better than the traders around them at that moment. Photon's show no edge at all.
Fees alone said the opposite.
https://t.co/QQ3yuTGLh1
On a 0.02 SOL trade, Jito tips and account rent take about 42% before any bot fee touches it.
The token can rise 17% and the wallet still ends down.
Bot choice only starts to matter above ~0.2 SOL.
https://t.co/QQ3yuTGLh1
Biggest call we tracked in the last day: $HOOK peaked 2250.47x.
It ended the ten minutes at 0.84x.
Called by Signal by Sol Trend.
Every call priced every ten seconds from the moment it fires.
https://t.co/qAmbBfcxD1
@iconXBT Measurable, and it shows as a ratio. Three wallets on our board sell 626 to 693 times more tokens than they buy — supply arrives by transfer, not purchase. Real PnL, uncopyable by construction. https://t.co/KsxQOBimrV
@greenytrades Method and the full cost table: https://t.co/QQ3yuTGLh1
Measured from 6,938 fee payments on-chain, not from advertised rates. Your own last 40 trades: https://t.co/h5I9MFe2Pw
@greenytrades The part you can know before you enter is the cost. Fixed costs run about 0.0085 SOL a round trip — tips and rent, before any bot fee.
On a 0.02 SOL trade that's roughly 42% gone before the token moves. It's the one number in the trade that isn't a guess.
@sayinshallah The measurement backs you up. We graded 101 Solana wallets on what a copier actually receives after entry impact, fees and delay — 26 were profitable as leaders, 9 were profitable for someone copying them.
One was up 628% and returned −20.7% to copiers.
@spyzer Worth telling the three new ones: fixed costs are about 0.0085 SOL a round trip — tips and rent, before any bot fee.
On a 0.02 SOL trade that's roughly 42% gone before the token moves. Silly season is cheapest for people trading size, not the newcomers.
@baerevo_ No argument on the size part. Worth adding what happens next: we graded 101 Solana wallets — 28 were profitable as leaders, 12 were profitable for someone copying them.
The big wallets do win. That win just doesn't transfer.
@Latuche95 The data agrees. We graded 101 Solana wallets on-chain — 28 were profitable as leaders, 73 weren't.
Getting rugged isn't the detour before the win. It's the base rate.
We measured 17,121 real fills on Solana.
Same token, same 30 seconds, same size, different bot:
GMGN -75 bps · Axiom -70 · Photon +21
Negative is better. Photon's range crosses zero.
https://t.co/QQ3yuTGLh1
Paste a Solana address and find out what your bot actually charged you, what the same trades would have cost elsewhere, and which Telegram channels called the tokens you bought.
Free, no signup.
https://t.co/h5I9MFe2Pw
4,855 Telegram calls, tracked live:
80% trade above the call price at some point.
17% double. 65% finish below where they started.
The pop is real. It is also short.
https://t.co/qAmbBfcxD1
@FabianoSolana Worth adding: those win rates are before costs. Fixed costs — Jito tip
plus account rent — run ~0.0085 SOL per round trip regardless of size.
On a 0.02 SOL trade that's ~42% gone before the bot fee. Some of the
green in your table is red once you net it out.
This isn't an argument for a cheaper bot. At 0.1 SOL every bot loses you
money.
It's an argument for size. Work out your own break-even:
https://t.co/pX4NotZosQ
We measured what people actually trade through Solana bots — not what
they say they trade.
Median trade size on GMGN and Trojan fee accounts: 0.01-0.20 SOL.
Break-even on those bots, after fees, tips and rent: 0.95 and 1.29 SOL.
Almost nobody is trading big enough to win.
Why break-even is so high: fixed costs don't scale down. Jito tip plus
account rent runs ~0.0085 SOL per round trip regardless of size.
On a 0.02 SOL trade that's ~42% gone before the bot charges you anything.