@Realbhildy@TaylorRMarshall Not a man that came out of heaven, MANNA. Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life; he who comes to me shall not hunger, and he who believes in me shall never thirst. - John 6:35. He IS the bread. He sustains us in the Eucharist like the Manna sustained the Jews in the desert
@mikeproverbs10@coltongrypr@needGod_net I just told you what it means. The words are in red letters, direct from Jesus' mouth, without interpretation. I come to you with scripture and you come to me with opinion and the dimishnent and waving off of the Word of God. Do you see yet why you shouldn't be your own Pope?
@mikeproverbs10@coltongrypr@needGod_net Ok so tell me, why did they feel it was necessary?
"And they held steadfastly to the apostles’ teaching and fellowship, to the breaking of the bread and to the prayers." - Acts 2:42
Why not just teaching, fellowship and prayers since that's all you claim is necessary?
@mikeproverbs10@coltongrypr@needGod_net No, the keys to the kingdom are the authority of heaven to lead His church on Earth. Literally in the same verse He explains what the keys mean, "...and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.” - Mat 16:19
@mikeproverbs10@coltongrypr@needGod_net Sigh, ok. Evidence: Acts 2:42 Only priests can break the bread that is, offer the sacrifice of Christ to God. The church didn't need to tell me to believe this one. I can easily see the obvious pattern throughout the Scriptures. God is very consistent. He makes it pretty easy.
@mikeproverbs10@coltongrypr@needGod_net Was Peter not given the Keys to the Kingdom of Heaven in Matt. 16? Is that not a position of authority? He didn't give them to John or any of the others; certainly not Judas. Another hierarchy. Peter was made the leader of the Church and he handed down the keys to his successors.
@mikeproverbs10@coltongrypr@needGod_net No, He taught them how He was to be sacrificed for the forgiveness of our sins. That is what the Catholic Mass is. Sacrifices to God can ONLY be performed by Priests. The Jewish Levitical priesthood was destroyed shortly after the Apostles were ordained by Christ. Coincidence?
@Realbhildy@TaylorRMarshall I'm asking why 5,000 people abandoned Him and all His teachings when just the night before, they accepted all His teachings to the point where they recognized Him as The Messiah and wanted Him to be their King? Which of His teachings was the "hard saying"? Can't be just obeying.
@Realbhildy@TaylorRMarshall Well, His teachings had literally over 5,000 people track Him across the sea for more teachings that morning, and by lunch they had all walked away from Him except His Apostles. So which one of His teachings made them reject Him on that day and not the day before?
@mikeproverbs10@coltongrypr@needGod_net Seriously? Hierarchies are all over Scripture. Families, tribes, kingdoms, armies; even the Angels exist in a hierarchy of 9 choirs. It's Biblical.
@mikeproverbs10@coltongrypr@needGod_net The New Covenant was literally established during the Last Supper. That's pretty Biblical. God is unchanging. How He forgives sin is unchanging. How He wants to be worshipped is unchanging. My faith is in the constancy of God, His Word and methods. I don't change Him to suit me.
@mikeproverbs10@coltongrypr@needGod_net But the 5,000 BELIEVED He was the Messiah and wanted to make Him their king. That's why Jesus left them the evening before. They BELIEVED this enough to literally track Him down across an entire sea. They saw the miracles, they BELIEVED. They still walked away and He let them.
@hookskat For the sanctification of others. Some of the holiest people had been subject to depression, oppression, possession or subjugation of some kind; either by supernatural demonic entities or just regular people who choose to do evil. Free will means no one is wasted.
@Galfridus6EQUJ5@TaylorRMarshall Dang bro! That was A LOT of pea soup you just spewed! It looked dumb, didn't read any of it. May God rebuke ALL your demonic attachments in the name of Jesus Christ, God the Father and the Holy Spirit. Amen. Peace to you bro.
@mikeproverbs10@coltongrypr@needGod_net Bishops are just the local heads of the priests and the Pope is just the head bishop. Totally hierarchical. Totally biblical. We all know how much God loves His hierarchies!
@mikeproverbs10@coltongrypr@needGod_net So what if, also like in the parable of the seeds, "The ones along the path are those who have heard; then the devil comes and takes away the word from their hearts, that they may not believe and be saved." - Lk 8:12. How done a deal is it, if Jesus teaches this is possible?
@mikeproverbs10@coltongrypr@needGod_net There have been millions of born again Christians who, like in the parable of the seeds, hear the word, receive it with joy; but have no root. They believe for a while and in times of temptation fall away. - Luke 8:13. If they had no free will, would God have let them fall away?