se acuerdan del psicólogo que estuvo hablando de la situación de hs? ayer subió un video preguntando cómo nos sentíamos después de estos meses y hubo un comentario que le llamó la atención. su respuesta fue bastante clara “cuando como fan empiezas a sentir que TÚ tienes que cambiar la vida de un artista, salvarlo o cargar con su bienestar, ya no estamos hablando solo de preocupación, sino de una relación parasocial que incluso puede afectar tu salud mental”
amigas en verdad, preocuparte por ellos es normal y querer que estén bien, también….. pero creer que depende de ti “hacer un cambio”, o traer de vuelta a alguien o incluso decidir qué necesita ENHYPEN, ya es cruzar una línea.
ahí dejas de acompañar al artista y ser fan y empiezas a ocupar un lugar que JAMÁS te correspondió ni te corresponderá y creo que eso explica perfectamente por qué algunas personas siguen con hashtags, boicots y campañas incluso después de los chicos dijeran que estan bien y felices….. porque esa gente llegó a un punto donde ya no está escuchando al artista; está convencida de que sabe mejor que el artista sobre lo que necesita.
por favor PAREN y conozcan sus lugares como fans y limítense a acompañar de manera sana a ENHYPEN en vez de intentar dirigir sus vidas.
ENHYPEN necesita a ENGENE, no a potenciales pacientes de hospitales psiquiátricos 🙏🏻
🗣️ : they looked happy with our OT7 fanchant though
also 🐈: I hope it doesn't happen going forward. I'm serious it stresses us out a lot during performances too. I really hope you stop that going forward
PLSS GET A GRIP Y’ALL!! ENHYPEN IS 6!!
#JUNGWON’s message during his live:
Everyone, there’s something I really feel I need to say, and honestly, this is the reason I started this live. I don’t think this is something we can just ignore and move past, especially since Weverse translations are available now.
I know there are a lot of people who really loved our past, and I understand that. There are many people who still love how we used to be. But there also seem to be many people who continue to deny the current ENHYPEN or refuse to accept who we are now.
Since we hadn’t clearly addressed this before, some people have been saying that we never gave a proper statement, and they’ve continued bringing up the number of members.
Of course, I understand the feelings of those who loved ENHYPEN before. But now… ENHYPEN is six members, everyone. ENHYPEN is six members.
I understand why some people still do things like certain fan chants at concerts because we hadn’t clearly said anything until now. I understand that. But it’s really not nice to see ENGENEs fighting among themselves because of this.
To be completely honest, it also disrupts our performances. It really does.
Now that I’ve clearly said this today, I think anyone who truly likes ENHYPEN and supports us will know how they should act going forward.
I’m going to be very clear because I don’t want to speak vaguely anymore. When people keep saying things like ‘ENHYPEN is seven,’ all it does is cause fights within our fandom.
No one wants ENGENEs to fight each other. The company doesn’t want that. ENGENEs don’t want that. And most importantly, the six of us don’t want that.
So from now on, I personally won’t consider people who continue to stir up these kinds of conflicts to be fans.
Honestly, this is exactly why I started this live.
I came here representing the members. I talked with them, and I’m speaking on behalf of all of us. The other five members feel the same way.
So I sincerely hope this stops.
Like I said earlier, it’s honestly very distracting during concerts. People spend a lot of money and time to come see us. Concerts are expensive, and it’s unfair to those fans as well.
So… I really hope everyone stops doing this.
Now that the translations are available, I think everyone understands what I’m saying.
And just to be clear, I’m not saying that our concerts in Brazil and Peru were bad. They were amazing. They were really great performances.
I’m also looking forward to our upcoming concert in Mexico.
I’ve made our position very clear. I’m saying this as a representative of ENHYPEN. The other members all feel the same way.
Please stop, and I hope everyone takes some time to think about this seriously.
At the end of the day, we’re people who work and perform for ENGENEs, and honestly… seeing all of this wasn’t pleasant for us.
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im shaking BUT IM PROUD OF YOU ENHYPEN IM PROUD OF JUNGWON.. he said im here as to represent my members and enhypen is six members now so i hope you will stop chanting 7 fanchants and start to support us AS WE ARE. HE SAID DONT DO 7 FANCHANT ANYMORE IM PROUD OF YOU ENHYPEN THANK YOU FOR TALKING
"i wish enha would address the situation"
*attacking jw for saying stop the number games*
*attacking sh for saying it's 3/3 now*
*attacking jw² for saying six of them worked hard for tour*
*attacking enha for encouraging ot6 fanchants*
*attacking nk for calling jy mathyung*
i’m gonna be blunt, but grounded cuz this isn’t just about tone, it’s about structure and long term impact. your statement is carefully worded, but strategically inconsistent. it tries to present clarity while actually maintaining ambiguity and in fandom ecosystems, ambiguity is where conflict scales, not resolves.
first, let’s correct a core framing issue.
a group fanbase is not just a support space, it’s part of the group’s informal brand infrastructure. that means your primary function isn’t emotional balance, it’s information clarity and brand coherence. once a member is no longer operating within the same unit structure (whether temporary or permanent), the communication architecture should reflect that separation clearly. not harshly, but definitively. what you’re doing right now, keeping selective symbolic inclusion (stickers, reposts, milestone mentions) creates what in media and brand theory is called boundary ambiguity. you’re signaling two conflicting things at once:
“we are focused on ENHYPEN as an active group”
“we are still partially integrating an individual who now has a separate lane”
those two messages cannot sustainably coexist in one channel without consequences.
and this is where the brand dilution point actually needs to be sharpened, it’s not just about mixing content, it’s about weakening narrative focus. in kpop, where attention cycles are short and competition is extreme, fragmented messaging directly impacts how effectively a group’s activities are amplified. even small insertions (like stickers or symbolic mentions) interrupt narrative consistency. over time, that reduces clarity of identity, not in a dramatic way, but in a cumulative one.
second, from a fandom sociology perspective, your policy underestimates how conflict actually forms. fanwars are rarely caused by outright hostility, they’re triggered by perceived unfairness and unclear boundaries. your current approach creates exactly that:
OT6 focused fans may feel their support space isn’t fully prioritized
heeseung/evan fans may still expect continued inclusion
OT7 or boycotters fans may use this GRAY zone to push their own narratives or agendas.
so instead of neutral ground, you’ve unintentionally created a contested space where every side can justify their stance. that’s not balance, that’s structural instability.
third, the people pleasing approach needs to be addressed more critically. in community management theory, trying to accommodate all sides in a polarized environment usually leads to expectation inflation, each group believes they deserve more recognition cuz some level of compromise already exists. this doesn’t reduce tension, it prolongs it and makes future boundaries harder to enforce.
the anniversary decision is a clear example. incorporating elements tied to someone no longer fully aligned with the group’s current trajectory might feel respectful, but communication wise, it splits the focal point of what should be a high concentration moment for the group’s identity. anniversaries are not just celebrations, they’re narrative anchors. diluting them, even symbolically, weakens their function.
fourth, and this is important, respect does not require integration.
there’s a difference between:
1. acknowledging history (which can exist in archives, retrospectives, or neutral references)
2. actively embedding that history into current promotional cycles.
the first is stable and respectful. the second is where friction begins, cuz it competes with present focused support.
right now, your approach leans toward the second.
finally, the biggest strategic risk here isn’t immediate backlash, it’s long term erosion of trust. a fanbase that appears undecided or inconsistent in its priorities will eventually lose authority as a central hub. people will start fragmenting further into smaller, more ideologically clear spaces. and once that happens, rebuilding a unified information flow becomes significantly harder.
so if-
??? I've stanned groups where the members left, whether it's clearly for health reasons or questionable ones but not once does the fanbase with a huge following do this especially if said member had moved on
[✉️] Notice from ENHYPEN UPDATES
Hello, ENGENEs! Please be guided with the following changes.
Moving forward, we hope for your cooperation, consideration, and understanding.
All for ENHYPEN,
ENHYPEN UPDATES
If I was an artist and my 'fans' decided to put their effort into a support cafe instead of listening to my work that I was so excited for, I'll be questioning myself and my self worth
@TheMalibuQueen ? Why are you twisting my words? I just said that if I was excited for one of my works that I've been wanting to do for so long (in this case a cover that doesn't profit the company and my fans doesn't need to spend any money to watch or listen to it) and my fans decided to
sunoo debuted as producers' choice but before he was given that title, he was:
- #1 in FIRST global voting (grounders) with 2,648,265 votes.
- #1 in FIRST global voting (ilanders & grounders) with 1,087, 503 votes.
- #1 in SECOND global voting with 1,705,287 votes.
- #5 from Producers' votes during their BTS Test with 77 votes.
- #1 from MIDPOINT Global Voting
- SEVENTEEN's Choice
- Chamber 5 Leader
- #3 from Producers' votes during their Concept Test with 86 votes.
In whole duration of ILAND, there were only 5 global votings (includes the debut line up) and among those 4 over 5 global votings, Sunoo was the #1. Basically, the only members who received #1 in global votes was him (4 times) and Jungwon (debut line up).
- 5th grounder who was chosen by the producers to move from ground to iland (performance based).
- he placed 5th from their Fire Performance with a score of 71.
- he was chosen to be the ground's vocal representative along with Daniel.
In whole duration of ILAND as well, he never placed below Top 6 (for both global votings and producers' choice) except to the final global votings which he placed #8. As what as I have heard, they were prioritizing other ilander because Sunoo already showcases his popularity with him being consistent #1 so they thought he was already safe.
He was doing well for both global votes and producers' choice, so I honestly don't have any idea where your negative remarks came from? Despite being trained for only 10 months, he received a lot of praises from both producers and global audience and was competing with trainees who have more background and experience than him. Just because he came from the ground (which was the ilanders' choice btw and not from producers), you guys have the audacity to talk about him being the member of ENHYPEN.
They are about to celebrate their 6th anniversary, yet you still can't move on that he is part of the group. Belittling him is so funny because ever since episode 1 he showcases his talents. And fun fact, he was never criticized by the producers for his talents. He was praise instead.
But anyway, since you guys brought up ILAND and start belittling sunoo, let me bring back this too. Because it is obvious you guys did not watch iland from the very start until the very end. Now open this thread and let me educate you!
#SUNOO #선우
👤: show us XO dance
🐥: XO?? is it right for me to do a dance i do as enhypen alone?
🐥: you want to see me dance to it alone?
🐥: *tries to dance to it*
🐥: you have to watch 6 of us (dance to it). there's no meaning doing it if i do it by myself.
i originally thought ppl were fighting for more transparency from belift... now i see that they just want to force him back into the group without confirmation that it’s what he truly wants.
Honestly, this is also a problem for normies who don't usually watch streams in general... Reporting what B did in A's chat IS NOT IT!!! If your streamer needs help they will ask themselves. They don't need your meddling. Just sit down and enjoy the content. LEARN CHAT ETIQUETTES
the kpop stan to vtuber fan pipeline is kinda crazy and sets you up fr because learning vtuber & chat etiquette has changed my general perception of chats. i'd open a kpop live and see chats that makes me frustrated by it because no one is following chat etiquette 😭😐
barusan abis donasi ke akun britaniasari di instagram, mereka kirim makanan real food siap makan yang diawetkan dengan metode retort (mirip ransum polri) untuk teman-teman kita di sumatera.
supaya korban gak konsumsi mie instan terus juga karena masih harus diolah sedangkan air bersih terbatas.
I hope you and other ppl stop using computer vision for this kind of thing. I've work with AI, especially computer vision, for at least 3yr in uni, 1 year in my past company. AI seharusnya gak pernah dipakai untuk entertainment purpose.
pertama AI sendiri ini sudah bad for environment. kalo gk ngerti kenapa bisa? this fuckin thing drain too much electricity, listrik darimana? dari tenaga air/fosil, etc. also dia nih karena datanya banyak untuk cooling operation systemnya jg butuh air yg jumlahnya tak terbatas. semakin kita banyak pake semakin banyak sda yg kita habiskan... and ngabisin sda untuk this kind of thing. ohh goodness. tobat!
kedua, data yg di feed sudah pasti data asal, tidak ada izin maupun kontribusi untuk artist yg karyanya dijadikan makanan si AI ini. orang ngabisin waktu dan tenaga untuk ngebuat karya yg bagus dan disini kamu ongkang angking kaki memanfaatkan sistem yg mencuri dan mencurangi usaha itu. dzolim kamu, sama aja kayak maling, tahu gak!
I was going to keep quiet, but this is all so dumb that I can't
1- They complain about an app that it's not even finished, they don't even know about the other features yet and they're complaining that it's not what they wanted;
2- They say they're focusing on the app and ignoring the entertainment factor, but we the app development team is probably not even the same as the entertainment team. Plus, we know they're not broadcasting because of the studio being unusable during the concert preparations, not the app;
3- They complain about the members' rights because of the app, the same members that agreed with the app in the first place (and probably some features are their own ideas);
4- They talk like we're been given zero content during the tour, but it's not true. The difference is that it's not the content they wanted;
5- They wanted to see more choreography, they give a 360º choreography video in the app. They're complaining it's only in the app;
6- "It was said to me it was a communication app". Again, the app it's still on beta test;
7- "I trust the members but I don't trust the company". The said.members trust the company;
8- They talk about the million selling and the Gocheok selling out like everyone that contributed to those milestones agreed with this whole whiny "protest";
In conclusion, I see people desperate and alarmed over nothing.
• PLV not livestreaming during the tour won't make them fade away like people are claiming;
• People wanting to be heard by the company it's just them not accepting that their own plans to PLV might not be the company's and PLV's plans;
• You not liking the content given seems like a "you" problem;
• You not trusting the company the members already said they trust seems like a "you" problem too;
• And complaining about an app that had ONE beta testing is just dumb, I'm sorry.