@evalladen@GeoffWacker relevance? (other than that everything is interconnected therefore always relevant in some way if you move the idea vertically and laterally enough)
@evalladen thats the same thing the axioms are the given frameworks. both of those examples you gave are shallow versions of "optimal" movement. the endpoint of vertical movement is (idk but it goes into doubting everything) idk about lateral
@evalladen but thats a different "vertical" the kind of vertical is asking 'why" so many times until you are completely disoriented from all(most) consensus reality. people usually stop
@evalladen what is "consensus reality"?
i would say suffering isn't real but i really don't know if that applies to anyone but me or even if it applies to me. or if its even my current belief