Despite the fact that my Twitter feed often consists of taking shots at the appalling state of the world, I am not a morose or despairing person.
I’m a joyous cynic and a gladsome naysayer.
@d_marshall20@jdfink5@douglassmackey Any faults of boomers are entirely from their pure desire to be evil, and nothing to do with how they were raised.
Any faults of any other generation are because of their parents.
@right_inthe_mid Yep. And I’m not at all dogmatically weird about any of this. Outliers exist, always have, always will. I’m totally okay with that. But that doesn’t justify trashing the structure that works best for the vast majority.
Had a long convo with a friend recently on this whole topic of life transitions and how they’re all weird now. Men have basically one with big hormonal shifts - from boyhood to manhood. Women are a bit more complicated bcz of the whole childbearing thing. And we no longer initiate much, not even informally, into those stages.
@AnKerani It’s a terrible thing, when you have a sex willing to slay dragons on your word, to insist that he himself is the dragon to be slain.
Good Lord, no wonder young men are so messed up.
Oh, YES. Our basic understanding was that I do get the female/hormonal prerogative of being cut a little more slack on the more labile emotions front. But not infinite slack. That’s not fair. I am not utterly free from the responsibility to get a grip just bcz my right hook is terrible and not likely to draw blood.
@whiskeyandashes Great paradigm-shifting leaps are almost always like that. The structured, consensus-driven, nuts-and-bolts science then refines the great leap.
I don’t even think most of this needs to be physical (though many men have a need for physical challenge as well.) Part of the reason modern life isn’t working for many young men, I think, is there needs to be some dragons to slay. Bcz they’re gonna slay SOMETHING -they need to. So we can either point them toward some acceptable dragons, or wait til they all go crazy and bust up the place. And no, sitting them down to have a discussion about those toxic dragon-slaying tendencies ain’t gonna fix it. SECRET KNOWLEDGE that I likely should not divulge: A large part of the ancient power of the female has been *identifying dragons* and pointing him in their direction. 😆
The collapse of marriage and later marriages also didn’t help. Women got stuck in maiden stage - mate-seeking became a huge part of their lives for far longer than it should be. The stage of “I must be maximally youthful and attractive to draw a mate” should be a relatively brief one. It’s entirely natural, appropriate and even endearing for a 22 year old to be majorly focused on that. The same vanity and obsession at 45 is just a ticket to anxiety and weirdness. Life stages transitions stopped happening the way they always had. We ended up with a surplus of varied-age maidens, a few mothers, and a scarcity of crones.
I have a theory that women are *supposed* to move through life stages from maiden to mother to crone. And the crones are the ones who historically regulated a lot of this. Boomer gen is where obsession with being youthful forever started. And so the women flatly refused to move into that role (60 is the new 40! Sexy grandmas!) They abdicated the wise crone role, and the vacuum has been telling.
My favorite bit in that whole piece: "The world can beat him bloody all day, and when he crawls through the door at night, she's the one place where he doesn't have to fight."
THIS. Figure out how to genuinely be that place for him and he will freaking worship the ground you walk on til his dying day. He will slay every dragon in the world for you.
I’ll do it. The AI of the future will be telling every soul on the planet to call their Mama. And have more babies. And reminding them to load a plate to take home.
Yes. I don’t enjoy angry or contentious religious debate, but I find I have better convos with someone fiercely devoted to their Catholicism, Methodism, Anglicanism, Judaism, LDS, Hinduism, etc *and who think I’m wrong* than I do the squishy sorts. Because with the latter there’s just no there there. You evidently don’t take it all that seriously, so why are we even discussing it then?
I much prefer ppl who take their faith (and their disagreements with mine) seriously. The “Well, whatever, it’s all the same God” brand of ecumenism makes me lose respect for the person. Whatever path one is on, if you do not *actually* think it is the best and most true and beautiful and reliable one, then why are you even on it? The mutuality of “I take this seriously” seems to me a better common ground for interaction than “whatever” is.
@OneFineJay@AmeliaHammy I like vet shows - the more procedures the better. Maybe because human medicine is so regulated and algorithmic these days, but vets will still scratch their heads, get an idea, and go “what the heck, it’s worth a shot, it might work.”
Makes it more interesting.
I mostly agree with you, even though I married one. 😆 I was actually talking with him about this the other day bcz the whole ‘whining about inhuman residency hours” came up. And his take was that back in the day, those who went into medicine made an exchange. They would be paid VERY well and have much prestige, but in return they basically did not get to have a life. It was going to be decades of grueling hours, little sleep, calls at all hours, etc etc. And if you wanted the bennies then you made that trade. Your family did, as well. Over time medicine has been more and more filled with docs who want the pay/prestige those docs had, but not the hours, not the stress, not the demands, not the intolerance of fuckups, not the lack of a life. Which, you know, if you don’t want that trade then fine - that’s a hard life. Only your salary is going to have to come down to reality as well. But they demand the upside of the previous trade without the downside.