Zankuro

⚔️ Anime enthusiast | Manga canon purist
🔥 Power scaling, lore & character analysis
🥷 Feats over hype | Logic over agenda
💀 Respect the debate Bring receipts

[Zankuro @Free2Tink]

😂 Calling Black Clover a Naruto copy because Asta is an underdog with a rival is some surface-level analysis.

Asta isn’t friendless, Yuno isn’t Sasuke, and the Wizard King isn’t a Hokage.

BC explores class discrimination, a magic-based social hierarchy, devils, grimoires and multiple kingdoms with distinct political systems.

Shared shonen tropes ≠ copied storytelling. And Tabata has openly cited Berserk, Bleach and Dragon Ball as influences.

At least understand the series before calling it a copy-paste. Or get the right references.

[Zankuro @Free2Tink]

😂 Buddy, nobody said Goku couldn’t do anything as a human. You’re missing the entire point.

Without his Saiyan heritage, he wouldn’t have been sent to Earth, raised by Grandpa Gohan, or followed the same path.

His entire story, development and power progression would be different.

You can’t just erase his genetics and assume everything else stays the same. That’s pure speculation. 💀

[Zankuro @Free2Tink]

😂 So now we’re magically transforming Saiyan Goku into a human while keeping everything he achieved through Saiyan genetics?

That’s not removing his Saiyan heritage, that’s cherry-picking what he gets to keep. 💀

You can’t erase the source of his power and automatically preserve the results.

[Zankuro @Free2Tink]

Buddy, you’re changing the scenario entirely. 😂 Removing Saiyan genetics right before a fight isn’t the same as Goku being born human.

A hypothetical human Goku would reset his entire development, abilities and power progression. You can’t just keep everything he achieved as a Saiyan and pretend genetics played no role.

[Zankuro @Free2Tink]

Hot take!🔥

🔥 Who’s the strongest fire user in anime? 🔥

Roy Mustang — Fullmetal Alchemist
Shinra Kusakabe — Fire Force
Portgas D. Ace — One Piece
Genryūsai Yamamoto — Bleach
Endeavor — My Hero Academia
Fuegoleon Vermillion — Black Clover
Escanor — Seven Deadly Sins
Sasuke Uchiha — Naruto
Kyojuro Rengoku — Demon Slayer

My take: Peak Shinra takes it overall, but Yamamoto is an absolute monster in pure firepower. Zanka no Tachi is ridiculous. 🔥💀

Who’s taking the crown? 👀

[Zankuro @Free2Tink]

@Anime_folks Non-Canon-ruto 💀

[Zankuro @Free2Tink]

Who says he would even meet Grandpa Gohan? 😂 You’re removing his Saiyan origins but conveniently keeping every circumstance that made Goku who he is.

That’s literally rewriting his entire history to fit your argument.

Naruto has proven feats without Kurama. Human Goku is pure speculation. 💀

[Zankuro @Free2Tink]

Speculating about Goku’s potential as a human is like speculating about Superman’s potential without his Kryptonian genetics. 😂

Could they become insanely strong? Sure. But you’re fundamentally changing what makes them powerful in the first place.

Anything beyond that is pure headcanon. 💀

[Zankuro @Free2Tink]

@weebscript_

[Zankuro @Free2Tink]

@AnimexTwts

[Zankuro @Free2Tink]

@DragonBallPee @AnimexTwts Exactly. The anime referencing its own filler later doesn’t make it manga canon. 😂

The Bount arc never happened in Kubo’s manga. Anime continuity ≠ manga canon.

[Zankuro @Free2Tink]

People really need to understand that a stronger verse doesn't mean a better anime. 😂

Bleach significantly outscales Naruto/Boruto, especially at the top end. That doesn't make Naruto any less of a masterpiece. Power scaling and storytelling are two completely different conversations. 💀

[Zankuro @Free2Tink]

@Dewale001star Ichibē, Yhwach, Aizen and the Soul King would like a word. 😂💀

The Bleach verse has absurd hax, not just raw power. The Almighty, Kyōka Suigetsu and Ichimonji aren't problems you solve by simply hitting harder. 😭

[Zankuro @Free2Tink]

Exactly… and that proves humans in DB can get very strong, not that human Goku automatically scales there. 😂

Krillin and Yamcha’s growth is THEIR feat. You can’t just transfer it to a hypothetical human Goku and call it proven.

Naruto without Kurama already has actual Sage Mode feats. That’s the difference.

[Zankuro @Free2Tink]

That still doesn’t solve the problem. 😂 Roshi blowing up the moon proves humans in DB can become absurdly strong — it doesn’t prove human Goku reaches Goku-level power.

And “he’d still be trained by the world’s best” is another assumption. If he’s born human to human parents, you’ve changed his biology, origin AND potentially his entire life path.

Could he become insanely strong? Absolutely. But it’s still hypothetical. Naruto already has proven high-level feats without Kurama.

[Zankuro @Free2Tink]

You’re arguing against a point I didn’t make. 😂

It’s not just about Zenkai boosts. Goku’s entire growth ceiling, transformations and insane potential are tied to him being a Saiyan.

Remove that and make him a normal human from birth, and we simply have no evidence he becomes anything close to the Goku we know. That’s pure hypothetical.

[Zankuro @Free2Tink]

Agreed, Kurama is a MASSIVE boost. Nobody disputes that. 😂

But Naruto has proven above Kage-level feats without actively using Kurama’s chakra. Sage Mode against Pain alone proves he’s a monster independently of Kurama.

That’s the difference between demonstrated feats and hypothetical potential.

[Zankuro @Free2Tink]

@Geek_attack32 @SHSLRuby @Anime_folks 🤣 Goku literally had a tail, survived a full moon transformation into a giant ape, and possessed Saiyan physiology from birth.

Saying he gained NOTHING from being a Saiyan is hilarious. 💀

Remove his Saiyan genetics and you’re rewriting his entire biology, buddy. 😂

[Zankuro @Free2Tink]

😂 You’re confusing inherited talent with genetics, buddy.

Hagoromo said Naruto didn’t inherit his parents’ exceptional abilities, not that he inherited literally NOTHING.

Naruto is still an Uzumaki, and Kakashi confirms his natural chakra reserves are 4x his own.

Chapter 315. Maybe reread it. 💀