You're not entirely wrong and I wouldn't do these free fee crafts if people actually had reasonable fee's. But I know how many people follow my builds and If I could make the same item for 2-3 mirrors for a 0 fee for my community, why wouldn't I?
Truthfully I wish mirrors could only be used once on an item and none of the mirror crafting drama would never happen.
Here is The first message from their "Mirror Team" member in my channel and he wonders why I banned them? After this his mirror team went in 1 by 1 with the same harassment, all because I was doing a Free Fee Craft. The only people who helped with this craft was Me and my Mods.
And yes anyone doing a 1 Mirror Fee is a clown. Your greed never stops, these are the same people who wanted to sell their builds for money and also want to do 1 Mirror Fee lmao.
Also as a PSA, I'll continue to take any amount of donations to craft any mirror item for free, specially if it has a 1 Mirror fee.
"No one wants this type of behavior in the community".
Here's the context you conveniently left out :
You directly name dropped and belittled members of our team, and when they responded you banned them and continued belittling them.
You even slandered creators who are not involved with us.
"Generosity funded by the people isn't generosity. Its a business model"
Check @fubguns 26/6 VoD from 4hrs 55 for full context.
Bro you cant even win a race with 1k on the line, you won what 2 races in total? 3x less than angormus?
In fact you only have any relevancy because none of the good path of exile 1 players even want to race in poe2.
Good luck bud, because you're going to need it. You should lock into your practice instead of protecting your mirror team.
You directly took their Mirror Spear week 1 for Free and publicly advertised it on stream, you retweet all of their post and active in their discord. Yet you're not on their team? that's weird.
Wasn't this also the same team that you were supposedly not on and lost $1,000 in the second wind race? Or is that also not true? Keep spreading lies.
Also I said your team was accusing me and my mods of botting/rmt, it's literally posted on my twitter.
Of course I'm going to call them out when they directly come into my chat and harass me, what do you expect to happen? Unlike you and your team, I would never go into someone's chat and target harass them.
If you're not on their team, leave their discord and don't take their handouts and don't advertise their mirror items, otherwise you're directly involved with them, you aren't fooling anyone.
Here's just some of your false information @Fubgun
1. "Keep in mind these guys used to be on TFT" -> No one from Mirror Tier was ever part of TFT.
2. "gtd mirror team" -> Again, I'm not part of Mirror Tier.
3. "you continue to spread lies of RMT and botting accusation" -> I LITERALLY NEVER accused fubgun of RMT OR botting.
4. "I never condone harassing" -> Yeah, except for when you do it yourself? I quote: "Clowns yo, fucking losers dude, get the fuck out of here, are you going to bitch in here as well?"
5. "His Mirror Team came into my stream, harassed me and my mods, all because I was making a free fee item for my community". -> Before they did literally anything, you name dropped them and said you were targeting their items.
6. "These are the same people who wanted to sell their builds for money" -> Mirror Tier has never even attempted to charge for builds.
The list goes on.
As for your last point, it's simple. I'm not part of team Mirror Tier, but I will call out BS when I see a multimillionaire spreading false narratives about my friends who are trying to start their career as content creators.
@GuyThatDied You guys already lost all good will with your targeted harassment, I have 0 intention of ever giving you a platform on my stream to speak on.
Everything I said in this tweet is true, but go on.
@lundburgerr_biz@Viking0071POE You realize serodboss is the biggest shit poster in my chat (over 200 timeouts, 20 bans).
You guys are actually just dumb as fuck.
Honestly tired of battling between 8 people. To say it clearly, they went into my chat and harassed me and my mods all because we crafted a Ring for 0 Fee. And they continue to spread lies in their discord.
I never once went into their chat or harassed them and publicly announced to my followers to also not harass them, I don't condone it and don't want to stoop to their level.
I'll forever to continue to craft items with 0 Fee for the community, as I've done since I started streaming 3 years ago.
@GuyThatDied Tell me which post is false information instead of protecting your "Team".
You say you're not on it, but active in their discord and also took their Mirror spear for free to publicly advertise it on stream and also repost all of their tweets.
You're directly involved with them.
@GuyThatDied This is a screenshot directly from your Mirror Team discord. Are you blind or dumb?
You continue to spread lies of RMT and botting accusation all because we crafted a ring for 0 fee.
@feildpaint I been wanting this for years and would also solve the many scams that unfortunately happen when doing mirror services. Other ARPG's already have this feature.
His "Mirror team" came into my stream, harassed me and my mods, all because I was making a free fee item for my community. I never condone harassing and never mentioned them by name until they targeted and harassed me, now they're pretending to be victims? No one is asking you to make mirror items and no one wants this type of behavior in the community.
As a reminder, 50-70% of the Settle shop items are done by non-streamers who always do free fee or low fee items. We also don't condone harassment and immediately remove anyone from the shop if they do this type of behavior.
If you guys are honest and want to be truthful, immediately remove the "Mirror Team" members who harassed me on stream and continue to spread fake information, but I know you won't.
You @fubgun are a large creator who is using his influence and community to bully people with a false narrative. You're being cringe.
Which sounds like more of a scam?
1 - Take free items and mirrors from viewers.
Use that to make mirror items with zero risk.
"Free service".. but you encourage tips, which earn you more mirrors than you could legitimately earn,
Call yourself a “man of the people”.
2 - Get a group of 10 passionate teammates blasting everyday for weeks. Pay full price for the base, 8000d. Take no handouts or donations. Charge a fee for mirror service which at its highest was 2500d (Half a mirror) after we spent +- 18 000 self earned divines making it.
Also he is still lying in his post, claiming his highest fee is 2500d when the ring had a 1 Mirror Fee, here is proof. I have all the logs and all the screenshots.
In the end, it's a free market. Anyone can list any item for any fee they want and I can also list any item I want for 0 fee, but going out of your way to harass and spread fake information all because I made an item for 0 fee is pathetic behavior.
I agree, reasonable fees for a 2-3 mirror craft isn't bad at all. The issue arrises when people want 1 mirror fees for a 3 mirror craft and than complain when someone makes the item for 0 fee, like what do you expect to happen? Or in my case, straight up harassment to me and my mods.
Mirror Crafters in poe2 have to be the most scummy people, they willingly take high fees on items knowing there are better free fee items on the market, they don't care and just want to scam any person who doesn't know better.
So as a Reminder, the settler shop has all the best items in the game for no fee or very low fee.
https://t.co/uFz0n0wXCy
A lot actually, you can check the settle shop and see non-streamer names. And of course the settle shop isn't the only place free fee people go to.
https://t.co/uFz0n0wXCy Not a lot of items are made in poe2 because only weapons/rings are worth mirroring, but you can check the poe1 shop as well.
Either free fee or extremely small (like 5-20d).
As a reminder a ton of non-streamers also do low fee/free mirror services(you can check settleshop and easily see names of non-streamers doing this). Mirror crafters try to justify their 1 mirror fees because they aren't streamers (lol). They're also streamers btw, they just want to oversell their items to their viewers.
This started because glitch/gtd mirror team came into my channel and started harassing me and my mods on twitch (calling us botters/rmters, probably projecting), all because I was crafting a ring for 0 fee. That is the backstory behind this tweet.
At the end of the day they just want to justify their dumb fees no matter what it takes, even throwing around false accusation and sending harassment towards my channel, maybe they thought I wouldn't call them out?
@yetz1 It's not even about regular high fees, it's about willingly charging a high fee when their are better no fee items out there, even worse when you're doing this as a streamer and knowing you're just giving your viewers a worse item while making them pay a fee for a worse item.
Wasn't directed at belton. Glitched/gtd "mirror team". Came into my chat, harassed me and my mods (accusing of botting/rmt just because we made a free item), might be some projecting there. They wanted a 1 mirror fee for their 3 mirror craft (LMAO).
Of course they're still charging their viewers high fees while the exact same item is out there for free, they simply don't care and just want to squeeze them for every divine.
@Zana36936433 They're only doing it because they know not everyone is knowledgeable about every item available, it's just scum behavior.
It is a free market people can do whatever they want, doesn't mean I can't call them out for bad behavior.