@Pastafarian1908@guyheroes@lconicCristiano The only joke here is your reading skills because, having hard times understanding a text is comprehensible, being arrogant and opinionated about something you just googled is just shameful. To a degree that a 12 year old Muslim will wipe out the floor with you in a debate.
@Pastafarian1908@guyheroes@lconicCristiano Yes, there are even those who justify blowing up Mosques and killing Muslims with Islam, If you wanna go down that route. Good for you getting rid of those Imams but, I advice paying more attention to priests in chruches so they don't rape any more kids.
@Pastafarian1908@guyheroes@lconicCristiano We only have one unfaliable book the Quran. And you didn't even cite Bukhari in the first place. You brought me Athars from ibn Majah and Nassa'i.
@Pastafarian1908@guyheroes@lconicCristiano Rather the greatest man that ever lived. He was permited more because he was the head of a state and, many of his marriages took place to secure peace. Again, most of his wives were old, widows, not particulary beauthiful, your image of him couldn't be further from the truth.
@Pastafarian1908@guyheroes@lconicCristiano It is not lawful for you ˹O Prophet˺ to marry more women after this, nor can you replace any of your present wives with another, even if her beauty may attract you—except those ˹bondwomen˺ in your possession. And Allah is ever Watchful over all things. 33-52
@Pastafarian1908@guyheroes@lconicCristiano because you didn't get what the verse is saying, the verse is telling the prophet the types of women he can marry among them malakat al yamine who are female servents, he married two, upon which their status as malakat al yamine was dropped and they became free.
@Pastafarian1908@guyheroes@lconicCristiano i've never heard someone justify rape or stealing with Islam if your religion forbids sexual intercourse outside of marriage to begin with, how can they justify such a thing with islam? I think it's just your impression since you're eager to link your failed society to Islam.
@Pastafarian1908@guyheroes@lconicCristiano We are 2b people, if you'd like to explain every bad thing we do with Islam, I'd like to see you say the same thing about judaism. jeffry epstein the leader of a pedophile sex ring is a jew. Are you willing your twisted logic on judaism too.
@Pastafarian1908@guyheroes@lconicCristiano As I said, you don't know what you are talking about. Hadiths are ranked based on their sources, chain, and Jarh w ta'dil, there are strong ones and weak(false) ones. By the way what you brought me isn't even a a propper hadith, it's an Athar.
@Pastafarian1908@guyheroes@lconicCristiano I can go on and on about the inconsistencies that result from setting her age at 9, but i'll stop to say, that the majority of his wives were old, not virgins, and they were not known for their beauty. whatever is in your mind about his lifestyle is much further than the reality
@Pastafarian1908@guyheroes@lconicCristiano furthermore, if you take it as hypothesis that she was 9 years old everything breaks, like her recalling things she shouldn't remember because she was 3. or her being present at a battle and helping injured people at the age of 5???
@Pastafarian1908@guyheroes@lconicCristiano the age of Aicha can't be simply determind easily, because all we know of her marriage comes from a guy that lived in iraq who never met Aicha in the first place, he only recalls what his father told him about what he heard about Aicha.
@Pastafarian1908@guyheroes@lconicCristiano Islam has multiple branches of science that deal with different topics, people spend 8 years studying to prove a point with a phd, let alone the 1400 of scolar works, you can't just "muslims agree on.." because we don't as I said it's a popular belief but it lacks proof.
@Pastafarian1908@guyheroes@lconicCristiano the hadith you brought is a mursal with a broken chain, you don't have a clue about what is Jarh and ta'dil that's why you hastely brought me this weak ass hadith and I rightly ignored you because you need to make some effort, again the analogy with evolution.
@Pastafarian1908@guyheroes@lconicCristiano still you can't deny the correlation between poverty and crime nor can you explain why majority of muslim countries are safer.
@Pastafarian1908@guyheroes@lconicCristiano No you didn't. what you did is prove how ignorant you are about Islam, by confusing a Balagha concept with the Aqidah. to me it sounded like someone refuting evolution by saying "If humans evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?". This is how stupid you sound.
@Pastafarian1908@guyheroes@lconicCristiano You seem to be from the netherlands. maybe brining thousnads of workers to your country and then expect them to just fuck off is a a stupid idea. What you're describing is an issue of poverty not Islam. Saudi Arabia is 99% muslims yet safer.