@MadocCairns I agree that racists in general believe them but the “tradcath” style ones tend to be very careful in how they talk about these topics in order not to say anything explicitly unorthodox in my experience. They probably would say that they disagree with these specific statements
@SimonSimplicio Lumen Gentium 14: “Whosoever, therefore, knowing that the Catholic Church was made necessary by Christ, would refuse to enter or to remain in it, could not be saved.”
@SimonSimplicio Besides the opposite would be weird. Would God force one that willingly and with enough knowledge rejects him and his will to union with him? This seems an override on our freedom
@SimonSimplicio As far as I know the “culpably reject” part is dogma per at least two EC (Florence and V2). Idk how you could reject that. But you can have a variety of views about what “culpability” entails (and this is too decontextualised to know what Joe believes about it)
@King_Crackers@vatican2spirit All due respect but it matters a lot. If it really happened it means that God performed an abortion (which would then be ok to do since God cannot do evil). Otherwise it just tells us about the belief of some medieval Irish catholic (which can almost safely be dismissed)
@bequietplease_b@marcojaujc@StefanFrancisci I mean the first instance (with Xi) was not ironic. The adoption for Meloni is since in this case “doing nothing” is a negative trait
@n1passer@DavidRland The “suffer even more” carries, I believe, an implicit “more than the heteros”. As I understand the tweet it implicitly already brings up heterosexual obligations, which, as an unmarried young man, I don’t believe to be much easier. That’s why I mentioned them
@DrFrancisYoung Canon law is in large part not of divine origin even in theory, it’s different from the law which in theory only comes from God’s covenant