@PovilasKorop It's a massive waste of time and energy, you will always run into the problems of active record/eloquent not being right for DDD. Just forget it and the app will be easier to maintain.
@taylorotwell This would be great. Used a starter kit for the first time recently (jetstream/inertia) and whilst it's fast to get going it seems like the 'glue' code should be in the app so it's more flexible. Also removes the worry of future package updates breaking anything.
@philsturgeon@MicOrchard Installed one last March in a large barn conversion. Does the hot water, two ufh zones and two big rad circuits. Runs fine in minus temps. Lots of BS floating around about these systems.
@taylorotwell Like Laravel it's almost absurdly easy to use to build great things. It takes care of all of the stuff you don't want to have to think about in your project.
@PovilasKorop Have used them as a kind of aggregate object that combines several crud models into a single representation of part of a domain. These can then be handed to a processor to run calculations etc. They're built by an 'assembler' that is a kind of boundary with the mvc framework.
@JustSteveKing It's potentially going to build a market for it before launch, but could also be copied quickly if it's a good idea. The developers I've seen doing this seem to have done well out of it so probably worth it on balance.
@enunomaduro Often use this to call something to destroy all related images and files on all related models then delete and let the cascade remove the records.
@PovilasKorop Have several projects on 4, some on 3. Have used tailwind on recent projects but still prefer bootstrap for the js/modals etc. With sass and the utility classes it's the perfect mix for me, will definitely use v5.
@philsturgeon Think of all that we've gained though! Luckily my wife is half German so we got the kids German passports in 2016 after this, it's easier to take knowing they have the same rights I grew up with.
@gonedark@laravelshift Recently been working on a large laravel app that has been stuck on 5.1 until now, attempts to upgrade never got anywhere. Shift took it from 5.1 to 6. Lots of other work to do still but shift went in first and got us started! π. Great product and nice to see it doing well.
@freekmurze@jeffrey_way Great point. I used to approach projects looking for all the things to point out and criticise. Over time you realise the arrogance of this approach, it adds nothing and can make clients feel alienated rather than impressed.
@justreenl@terinjokes@philsturgeon Ahh the memories π I remember being asked to look at xslt in 2000 for a project, it's one of the things that made me really appreciate PHP 4 at the time. XPath was a real joy to work with π