@DippersGravity@bullbornsaint the targaryen dynasty literally sent robert’s parents on a voyage that killed them, burned rickard and strangled brandon, wanted him executed for no reason, and he believe that rhaegar was raping lyanna repeatedly. why would he care about said rhaegars children💀?
@ErikaTe16@Michonnepilled he slept with ghost in between them yes and it’s explicitly stated that he did this under the “suspension” that she wanted more. quote the actual sentence💀. she never touched him in that way and never once heard him deliberately say the word no. show me her using coercion.
@ErikaTe16@Michonnepilled and when did she coerce him? he didn’t have to sleep with her. she already lied for him. only way for her to coerce it at that point would be to tell mance she lied and put both of them at risk. show me jon once explicitly telling her no.
@ErikaTe16@Michonnepilled if you don’t want to sleep with someone and purposefully deceive them and have sex with them and act like you wanted it and internally think that you enjoyed it and then proceed to do it over and over again, how is the other person a rapist?
@KingWhoNevaWas@PasteleSecond@TheDeltango grrm can quite literally say “ no my character didn’t abuse my other character in the past”. unless you have proof of the exact opposite which you don’t💀. the only time she’s ever close to abusive is after bran fell.
@bhangbhangducx@PasteleSecond you mean when she disagreed with robb’s choice of dishonoring his marriage alliance with the freys, told him not to give away theon, and had no part in him killing rickard karstark? all those choices lost robb the war btw.
@DBackslide59610@PasteleSecond show me where cat excluded jon from his family. jon was literally trained by jon and reminisces how he used to prank his siblings. jon’s literal first lesson he has to learn in agot is how good he had it at winterfell💀. cat also isn’t jon’s stepmother btw.
@NM_Jr77@cerseidefender why are we on robert? i’ll say this for the final time. cersei doesn’t view it as rape. jaime doesn’t view it as rape and is EXPLICITLY against rape. george doesn’t view it as rape. he didn’t write it as rape. you have no argument unless you can provide book evidence.
@NM_Jr77@cerseidefender four different messages spamming the same EXACT shit that i’ve already stated and that you knowingly didn’t reply to cause you’re trying to force a strawman cs your argument is ass😭.
@NM_Jr77@cerseidefender are you illiterate on purpose? you’re trying too hard to force the straw man💀. that’s literally me addressing that our world and westeros has two different law systems. a fact that you keep trying to throw in my face like i haven’t said it ten times already.
@NM_Jr77@cerseidefender you’re literally trying to force the inconsistency btw. once again, i’ve already answered this. you’ve just been getting debunked left and right and reaching to the stars😭
@NM_Jr77@cerseidefender and how many times do i have to ask you to provide evidence in the books of coercion being rape in westeros? you’ve yet to do so💀. i’ll make this easy for you though. show me ONCE in the the ENTIRE last two books of cersei calling jaime her rapist.
@NM_Jr77@cerseidefender how many times do i have to say that i was comparing the differences that cersei thinks about robert and cersei? robert is literally stated to assault cersei. jaime isn’t. the literal narrative supports that jaime isn’t a fan of rape multiple times btw. move on.
@NM_Jr77@cerseidefender and you’re arguing abt the lore of asoiaf. which means if we use what george writes and the way his world works, that means jaime never raped cersei which means what? this entire time, you’ve been talking bullshit and my point stands😭😭