@misiqsevici Continuity of ideas which in turns requires continuity of genes and phenotypes
Only people like you are likely to transmit and act upon your moral system in the long run
and if your moral system goes against genetic interests it will be selected out long term it's results with it
@misiqsevici Morality exist to serve genetic interests, not the other way around.
Things that do not ensure their continuation do not continue to exist, it's basic logic.
Even if you arbitrarily decide to have another moral system, for it to continue being acted upon requires...
@misiqsevici "Bullshit terminology"
My guy...
Genetic interest is what made humans human.
The reason we evolved the need for morals in the first place to have debates about is because it was in our genetic interest to do so.
If it hadn't been to our genetic interest it wouldn't have evolved.
@misiqsevici It's also different from the perspective of the country of arrival, a traitor to some is an ally to others, for the perspective of Korea it's a foreign ally, (provided that person is actually useful to Korea and not a leech)
@misiqsevici It's genetic, it's in the name, emigration or assimilation changes nothing.
It's a bit more nuanced with the US because it's also European and even partly French.
But change the country to Korea and it's obviously just being a traitor. No matter how westernized Korea is.
@misiqsevici How am I evading ? Can you make what you want to know clearer ?
I've answered everything you asked to my knowledge
Also I haven't said "genetic memory" even once work on your reading skills.
maybe that's why you think I haven't answered, re read my prior post you might find out.
@misiqsevici Selling some land to get money isn't a clear cut situation, how much land ? how much money ?
How important is this land ? Why do the foreigners want it ?
Is the money well used or is it corruption ?
if you just don't know then you don't know who's in the wrong either.
@misiqsevici Disowning your friend for that is perfectly moral.
It may be hard, in the same way snitching on your friend for murdering someone in cold blood is hard, but it is morally correct.
You may be a "better friend" for hiding his murder too, but you are a worse person.
@misiqsevici It's not vague.
I can give you concrete examples:
Mass immigration -> Clearly traitorous, replacing the genotype and phenotype of your people with foreigners is OBVIOUSLY to the detriment of their existence long term
And race mixing is OBVIOUSLY to the detriment of your phenotype
@misiqsevici Having strong morals doesn't mean you kill people willy nilly.
Certainty is part of the calculus.
If you aren't very certain whether a choice is good or bad then it's probably not worth causing damage to reverse it, and that goes for any moral system not just genetic interest.
@misiqsevici Deciding not to rank the occupation is a decision, whatever you believe about it ranked or not is a decisions too, who decided that ?
If your friend Jeff works to threaten the preservation of your genes, way of life or that of your people he is not your friend.
@misiqsevici Genetic interests aren't some inscrutable feeling, it's survival and reproduction of the group.
It's simple and intuitive, whatever threatens the future existence of our genotype and phenotype is evil.
@misiqsevici@Providnik1 "Who decides?"
Is a common rhetorical trick to discredit any worldview as arbitrary
It's meaningless I could say the same of yours "Who decides that occupation is more important?"
Someone decided the status quo too, it isn't neutral just because it's already there.
@misiqsevici@Providnik1 I your billionaires ruin your country they are traitors.
Traitors are worse than enemies.
It's worse for them to act in destructive ways specifically because they have a lot in common with us
It should be punished harshly in the name of the things we have in common.
@misiqsevici@Providnik1 That is roughly what I am in favor yes, it works both ways.
It's not just "you should support your billionaires because they are the same ethnicity no matter what" it's conditional on the fact that they support you too and if they don't they are traitors.
Why is that bad ?