ellie!

"let us calculate"

[ellie! @goosecalculus]

@DevinGoure The difference between Wittgenstein and Wittgensteinians is the latter dont really try dissolving a philosophical puzzle so much as they just tell you that language is on holiday and then look at you like this

[ellie! @goosecalculus]

@wool1111 If I have to see the word "Goedel" in the same tweet as "AI" and/or "consciousness" ever again I'm going to crash the fuck out lol

[ellie! @goosecalculus]

@hi523275438946 Is it better than Joker reads R/Relationshipadvice posts?

[🇵🇸i have never heard of philosophy @dimitripilled]

A lot of humanities/liberal arts advocates seem to forget that math and science are also necessary parts of a broad education

[ellie! @goosecalculus]

@freganmitts @thinkmischief @dioscuri @zetalyrae Do you think replacing 'I' with "This LLM/Agent" would significantly change the way that people relate to LLM's?Personally I am sceptical, but I am also curious whether you feel this way about e.g. Siri? or is it just for LLM's specifically?

[ellie! @goosecalculus]

Andrea Dworkin was an incredibly mediocre intellect, whose place in the hearts and minds of devotees and critics alike is a direct result of none of them reading her. Once you have, there is nothing to say.

[ellie! @goosecalculus]

@filosonessie216 @bilbosfootcomb This is a very narrow and specialised curriculum though, but my point is that I don't think the student gains anything by speed reading Capital and the Phenomenology of Spirit, then reading well chosen excerpts in more depth.

[ellie! @goosecalculus]

@filosonessie216 @bilbosfootcomb Is speed reading a bunch of books you've been told are important really the best way to provide general lines of introduction?

[ellie! @goosecalculus]

@davidzmorris If, before writing this, you had taken the time to study Goedel's theorems to the point where you could spell his name correctly, you might have actually learned something interesting. Why not do so now and then delete this?

[Judith Butler Bible Thumper @philosophysux]

Signs & signifying are central to thinking, but why are we so offended by the idea that writing isn't? Are illiterate people incapable of thought? Surely not. Writing is central to thinking more than ever in modernity, since antiquity. But thought and the word are not identical

[ellie! @goosecalculus]

Forget paraconsistent, I have literally never seen a single film simulate a fuzzy logic with a Łukasiewicz t-norm. 50 years later and Hays-Code era prejudices regarding "correctness" still define our big screen formalisms

[taylor @worstofallworld]

Film people say this then dont even employ dream or paraconsistent logic in their narratives

[ellie! @goosecalculus]

@fearthe_void I think evaluating these things without blind listen is pointless given how we react to knowledge of LLM authorship. I am doubtful that the relative structure of other forms of music will prevent it from attaining this level of competence across the classical repertoire though.

[ellie! @goosecalculus]

@Inframethod Your blog post kind of makes it sound like it's a matter of definition, thinking is a thing people do, not machines, but in that case why prefer such a definition compared to a more functional one--where llms and calculators can add and think?

[ellie! @goosecalculus]

@Inframethod I never understand what criterion for "thinking" is at play in these arguments such that we could identify if a machine was thinking--is it some inner process? It doesn't seem implausible to me that we might eventually be able to describe people analagously, i.e without thought

[ellie! @goosecalculus]

@19Joeyo This is a normative argument that doesn't really interact with my point, this will happen precisely because mass culture IS a for profit enterprise. I do not think the majority of people share your moral intuitions about this or pop music--the topic of discussion--wouldn't exist.

[ellie! @goosecalculus]

Tbh I think they have a better understanding of what and why people enjoy than you do. I am not convinced the average person won't happily accept their personally curated sloptracks once the technology gets good enough, which it seems like it will.

[Pander 🇵🇸 @PanderShirts]

Tech dudes do not understand the purpose of art or why people enjoy it

[ellie! @goosecalculus]

@__Liebert_ You or I might not want this but we are statistical aberrations for the most part.

[ellie! @goosecalculus]

@__Liebert_ Oh, I think the tech people are basically right that everyone wants a personalised curated slop factory and they will happily accept and listen to AI generated music as soon as we hit a certain technological threshold. Anyone claiming otherwise is overly optimistic.

[ellie! @goosecalculus]

@__Liebert_ What are you confused about?

[ellie! @goosecalculus]

@musesu_nuru Yeah I don't know how anyone kids themselves even remotely about this stuff, it was obvious even before the rise of LLM's. That said I think the future is probably AI generated K-popesque idols rather than full personalisation.