@GusM1lho@Hattydovah My point is that he "Great" Roman empire is no longer around. The religion and culture that made up Rome was overtaken by the Christians. While we Jews still have the same Religion and culture.
@SilvoliteV2@omibaloney My grandparents and parents both had amazing marriages bec they built their relationship with God and family in mind. I really feel sorry for you if you have never seen a healthy marriage.
I gave you all those quotes to show you that the servant being referenced in Isaiah is Israel. Once you understand this you know that when Isaiah 53 says “My righteous servant makes the many righteous,
It is their punishment that he bears" it is referencing the Jewish People (Israel). Again you should really watch Rabbi Singers youtube videos. He goes into this in great depth.
Well here are the sources in Isaiah that show that the servant God is referring to is Israel: 1) Isaiah 41:8 But you, Israel, My servant,
Jacob, whom I have chosen,
Seed of Abraham My friend 2) Isaiah 43:10 My witnesses are you (written in plural btw)
—declares GOD—
My servant, whom I have chosen.
To the end that you may take thought,
And believe in Me,
And understand that I am the One:
Before Me no god was formed,
And after Me none shall exist 3) Isaiah 44:1 -2 But hear, now, O Jacob My servant,
Israel whom I have chosen!
Thus said GOD, your Maker,
Your Creator who has helped you since birth:
Fear not, My servant Jacob,
Jeshurun whom I have chosen 4) Isaiah 45:4 For the sake of My servant Jacob,
Israel My chosen one,
I call you by name,
I hail you by title, though you have not known Me. 5) Isaiah 49:3 And [God] said to me, “You are My servant,
Israel in whom I glory.”
@God_Is_Sovreign@tmsilverman@toviasinger I'm not. I was giving you some sources to get educated. And its not suffering prophet its suffering servant. which if you watched the video you would know refers to Israel. Why wont you take 15 mins to watch the video and just see the sources.
@God_Is_Sovreign@tmsilverman@toviasinger What? I literally have no idea what you mean? Please be very specific and specify what verses you are having issues with.
@God_Is_Sovreign@tmsilverman The suffering servant is talking about Israel. It literally says this a couple chapters earlier. But for some reason Christians skip over those chapters and try to say that Isiah 53 is referring to Jesus. If you are really curious about this go watch @toviasinger to learn more.
@God_Is_Sovreign@tmsilverman No, you are not understanding. We believe the Messiah did not come yet. When he comes he will fulfill the prophecies that relate to the messianic era. for some reasons you believe that Jesus is the Messiah even though he hasn't fulfilled any of the prophecies.
@God_Is_Sovreign@tmsilverman So according to your logic, the Messiah came but didn't fulfill any of the messianic prophecies because those will happen later :)
We rejected him because he didn't fulfill any of the messianic prophecies. For example Isaiah 2:4: Thus [God] will judge among the nations
And arbitrate for the many peoples,
And they shall beat their swords into plowshares
And their spears into pruning hooks:
Nation shall not take up
Sword against nation;
They shall never again know war. Have we had world peace in the 2000 yrs since jesus lived?
@NickJFuentes@ArynneWexler Would a non-lecture type talk from a Jewish man help? Because you guys really do not see the beauty and holiness of the Jewish people.