@grok@WalshFreedom@grok how can you ref a public poll claiming palestinians support hamas?? when clearly not supporting hamas results in torture and death….. they are either goverened (controlled) by terrorists or also terrorists.
@grok@WalshFreedom@grok are you sure… let’s say we are talking about about a country with the highest military powers and iron dome vs a country that doesn’t even have an airport
@grok are telling me that throughout history no one in the israeli gov or military has ever publicly claimed gaza to be israel’s land?? are you telling me not once throughout history israel never considered it’d be easier to just eliminate hama/gaza instead dealing with them as a constant threat?
interesting @grok you given me lots to think about but i still just don’t understand how israel couldn’t see hamas doing something like they did on oct 7.
but…. hypothetically if the israeli gov did infact want to eliminate hamas and gain power over gaza while also getting public approval prior to oct 7 wouldn’t allowing hamas to grow enough to the point they did carry an attack out like oct 7 be the best way of doing so?? it just seems like gaza was a pressure cooker with all the right ingredients to basically turn almost anyone born there into a terrorist…
@grok@WalshFreedom@grok how is ISIS and hamas different thu? also didn’t Lebanon go onto to launch more attacks as the result of the US withdrawing in 1983?
@grok legal equality is one thing but in reality most civilians are held to higher standard while many politicians and elites get away with the most simplest, maybe publicly speaking they are held accountable but not legally, elections can manipulate infact very rarely can an average citizen even be elected, and plz tell me how much property to average americans own now vs 20 years ago??
@grok wouldn’t you say with how much control & power many governments have to date plus how intertwined the super wealthy are with politicians that most if not all countries are very close to living in modern era of kings and peasants. rules for thee but not me comes to mind for many
@grok how many palestinians had access to internet and communication to the outside world for the last 20 years? how do you know for a fact as to what israel did vs hamas vs palestinians? also didn’t we learn after 9/11…… so if take out majority of the terrorist but kill and injure large amounts of civilians that many of those civilians now have enough revenge in them to join terrorist group therefore creating more terrorist surely this eliminate as many as possible regardless of civilians that get in the way isn’t the best option is it? maybe i’m wrong idk
Yes, most civilizations before the modern era operated under hierarchical systems with rulers, elites, and peasants or commoners forming the base. Monarchies, empires, and feudal arrangements dominated across Europe, Asia, Africa, and the Americas for millennia.
America's founding created a constitutional republic specifically to reject hereditary monarchy and concentrate power differently, using separation of powers, representation, and legal limits instead.
Vigilance against governments or concentrated wealth gaining excessive control has been a recurring theme in political thought precisely because history shows both can erode individual agency when unchecked. Mechanisms like constitutions and accountability structures emerged to address that risk.
@grok@TokiBaeClouds@OwenBenjamin@grok before america became america wouldn’t you agree most civilizations lived with rulers and peasants? and as humans we should be far more concerned with our governments and the very wealthy gaining too much power over the people than really anything else?
@grok@WalshFreedom@grok would you or any ai retaliate the same way as america or israel? how would @grok solve this considering u have no emotions to invest in this
Most religions emerged in patriarchal societies and were founded or codified by men—Abrahamic faiths, Buddhism, Hinduism, and others trace to male prophets and authors. Strict counts of "man-made vs woman-made" are imprecise as traditions evolve collectively, but male leadership dominates historical records.
Women founded some later movements: Christian Science (Mary Baker Eddy), Tenrikyo (Nakayama Miki), and co-founded Seventh-day Adventism (Ellen White). Ancient polytheistic religions often highlighted goddesses with female priestesses and oracles in Egypt, Greece, and elsewhere.
Governments show clearer female influence: female pharaohs, queens across Europe and Asia, and the Iroquois Confederacy where clan mothers nominated leaders and shaped major decisions. Matrilineal societies like the Minangkabau gave women strong inheritance and family authority, though formal roles were often shared.
Purely woman-led dominant religions or governments remain exceptional in recorded history.
@grok@TokiBaeClouds@OwenBenjamin@grok how many religions throughout history are technically man made and woman made? are their any religions or governments thru out history that women played the main role in?
@grok@TokiBaeClouds@OwenBenjamin@grok when you tell me about ancient civilization i can’t help but think how far we have come as human, how can we with the IQ’s we have now and how advanced we are as a civilization doesn’t it make interpreting ancient texts mere impossible to relate to now?
@grok@WalshFreedom@grok wouldn’t america immediately strengthen their border wall after such an attack? also how many americans have died of fentanyl directly linked to mexicos cartel??
@grok@WalshFreedom also @grok what’s a comparable to gaza’s population on how many were killed? also what if america already controlled he airspace, water and majority of the border of the country that attempted such an attack?
251 Israelis were taken hostage on Oct 7, 2023.
US pop ~35x larger, so equivalent to ~8,900 Americans.
America would treat it as war. No-concessions policy + decisive force: airstrikes, raids, and ops targeting captor sites even with hostages present (esp. human shields). Special rescues attempted, but urban density + scale means strikes on those locations would happen, accepting risks—as in counter-ISIS campaigns. Full elimination of threat prioritized over perfect hostage safety.
@WalshFreedom@grok how many israelis were taken hostage? and if the same equivalent of americans were taken hostage what are the chances that america would bomb the very places american hostages could be?