GregDN

Lover of truth.

[GregDN @GregDN2]

@Godfrey3366 @Nowayforlinerty @Chadredsnapper @CBHeresy In any event, if your definition of Apostolic Fathers includes any of the original apostles or their contemporaries, I would love to see any writing from them where they say the NT contains all we need to know about Christ.

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@Godfrey3366 @Nowayforlinerty @Chadredsnapper @CBHeresy Yes, Mark and Luke were personal witnesses of Jesus Christ’s ministry and even if not members of the original 12 Apostles were likely either made Apostles or members of the 70.

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@tnsampson2 @ChadTheBad Are you 100% sure that everything you’ve laid out is accurate description of LDS doctrine?

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@Godfrey3366 @Nowayforlinerty @Chadredsnapper @CBHeresy Ok, appreciate your clarification that you’re relying on the teachings of “apostolic fathers” on that point, not the Bible itself or the apostles themselves. I reject many teachings of the so called apostolic fathers. Many truths were already lost by their time.

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@Godfrey3366 @Nowayforlinerty @Chadredsnapper @CBHeresy Where did the apostles say that the Bible contains everything important that Christ did? I find that interesting since the scriptures that comprise what we now know as the Bible weren’t assembled together into a set of cannon until hundreds of years after the apostles lived.

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@SOC_IT_2_Me @FatherChrisVor1 Smith claimed that not just an angel but that the Father and Son visited him prior to any angelic visits. The legacy of those revelations is a church of millions of faithful saints who love Jesus, among the most charitable people in the world, strong families, and good citizens.

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@durag12th @CluffK @FatherChrisVor1 Is there any scripture that supports that theory? Christ seemed pretty definitive when he said except a man be born again of the water and the spirit he cannot enter into the Kingdom of God. How are the ignorant born again in your view? Also, when was that doctrine adopted?

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@WordProvesTrue @razaoerevelacao @gaptoothdummy @justin_hart The absence of an affirmative command to practice it in the Bible just shows the the men who compiled the scriptures into what we now know as the Bible hundreds of years later didn’t have all the writing of the apostles and that there’s need for further revelation re the Gospel.

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@WordProvesTrue @razaoerevelacao @gaptoothdummy @justin_hart You think Paul would state “baptism for the dead would be pointless if there was no resurrection” if he didn’t condone the practice? If proxy baptism was heretical or even of no consequence it would have been “pointless” regardless of the reality of the resurrection.

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@UlsterSpud @Godfrey3366 @Chadredsnapper @CBHeresy I guess all those early Christians who lived before the Nicene Creed was voted on in 325 (or amended in 395) just weren’t really Christians because they didn’t understand the true eternal nature of Christ. Too bad, since that understanding is a matter of salvation, right?

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@UlsterSpud @Godfrey3366 @Chadredsnapper @CBHeresy Yeah, remember when Jesus said it was not enough to believe He is the Savior of the World, Son of God, to foresake one’s sins, be baptized? Rather, one must also believe He is “consubstantial” with the Father; otherwise they believed in the “wrong Jesus” and all was for naught.

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@Godfrey3366 @Nowayforlinerty @Chadredsnapper @CBHeresy How do you know?

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@Nowayforlinerty @Godfrey3366 @Chadredsnapper @CBHeresy So you concede that Jesus has done things among the human race that are not necessarily recorded in the Bible?

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@UlsterSpud @Godfrey3366 @Chadredsnapper @CBHeresy We study His life, His teachings, and take sacrament weekly in remembrance of His Infinite Atonement.

Do we believe differently than you about some important aspects of His eternal nature? Yes. Do we reject the creeds formulated by men centuries after his time on earth? Yes.

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@UlsterSpud @Godfrey3366 @Chadredsnapper @CBHeresy We believe in the Christ who is the Jehovah of the OT, Son of God, born to a virgin Mary in Bethlehem, ministered and performed miracles from Galilee to Jerusalem, suffered in Gethsemane and on the cross of Golgotha, resurrected on the third day, who is the Savior of the World.

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@Godfrey3366 @Chadredsnapper @CBHeresy That’s not true. We don’t believe in anything that is contrary to what’s written in Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, or any of the other books of the NT or OT.

Do you believe the Bible contains everything Jesus did and taught?

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@Fair_and_Biased @letsgogetsnacks @justin_hart BTW, We also believe that Christ is Jehovah of the Old Testament, prior to his birth to the Virgin Mary.

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@Fair_and_Biased @letsgogetsnacks @justin_hart Much is lost in semantics. We LDS believe the members of the Godhead (God the Father, Christ, and the Holy Spirit) are “one God”. It says so in the Book of Mormon. But they are one God in the sense they are one in perfect purpose; not one being. We don’t see them as 3 Gods.

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@Weslin0071 @RandomRadical @seanfeucht *three-tier kingdom.

Misspellings aside, you’re getting a lot of stuff wrong for someone who claims to have been “raised in the church.” What age did you leave?

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@Godfrey3366 @Chadredsnapper @CBHeresy The recent trend to compare to Muslims is so intellectually lazy and dishonest. LDS believe Christ is the Savior of the world, the Son of God, atoned for our sins, resurrected, and is the only means for salvation. We believe all of the NT. Muslims see Christ as only a prophet.