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geographer at work, folks

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@SteveJ111 @AndrewKolvet @rngname123 @hasanthehun @daveweigel No one here is saying they "like" Iran. This is a discussion about sovereignty and coercion, and the use of military force.
Liking the regime is irrelevant to sovereignty. And I don't expect people who support an authoritarian monarchy to care about sovereignty / democracy.

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@SteveJ111 @AndrewKolvet @rngname123 @hasanthehun @daveweigel Operation Ajax is a conspiracy?
This is one of the most well-documented coups in CIA history.
What you’re saying is conspiratorial garbage. Iran has support more than ever, now that they have been shown that moderates and western-looking Iranians conspire with their killers.

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@SteveJ111 @rngname123 @AndrewKolvet @hasanthehun @daveweigel Do you actually read & listen to the news?
Every military expert knows that scorched earth airstrikes is the only option for the US & Israel, to continue trying to create social instability and try to coerce Iran to concede.
And it won’t work.
Everybody knows.
It’s intentional.

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@SteveJ111 @AndrewKolvet @rngname123 @hasanthehun @daveweigel Yes it goes back to staging a coup so oil companies can keep taking the lion’s share of Iran’s oil profits without audit, the CIA overthrowing democracy and reinstating an authoritarian monarch that suppressed & destroyed all liberal democratic currents in Iran’s political life.

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@SteveJ111 @AndrewKolvet @rngname123 @hasanthehun @daveweigel US vessels trespassed into national waters that are closed for security reasons.
You’re a gullible prick.

Yes, the IRGC is decentralized in a sophisticated and strategic structure in order to survive assassinations, which is what Israel does for almost a century.

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@SteveJ111 @AndrewKolvet @rngname123 @hasanthehun @daveweigel But Steve, if you want to claim that Iran is intentionally hitting civilian targets, then you must accept that the US & Israel are also intentionally hitting civilian targets. And they did it first.

Do you understand asymmetrical warfare? This isn’t a philosophical debate.

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@adam_louis52328 @Terrilltf Well, no.
Because the genocidal intent is always there, waiting for triggers to justify “mowing the lawn” offensives.
The logic of Israel is that they will “spirit away” the non-Jews beyond the borders of Palestine (words of Hertzl). Also to prevent Palestinian nationhood.

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@SteveJ111 @AndrewKolvet @rngname123 @hasanthehun @daveweigel Ah yes because you know everyone’s intentions, right? And you know when people are lying, right? Do you think the folks who assassinated the people they were negotiating with are the ones being honest?

Iran was attacked. Israel hit Iran’s energy infrastructure first. Period.

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@SteveJ111 @rngname123 @AndrewKolvet @hasanthehun @daveweigel The ANC killed civilians. The Algerians killed civilians. The American revolution colonists killed civilians. The slave revolts killed civilians.

What’s your point?
We all know it’s a bad & violent situation, but the structure of power is creating it, not the ones being crushed.

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@SteveJ111 @AndrewKolvet @rngname123 @hasanthehun @daveweigel Why did the US and Israel hit civilian buildings and infrastructure in Iran?
Why did Israel demolish the entire Gaza Strip where 2 million people live?

To answer you in part, US soldiers went to stay in civilian hotels to avoid being struck by Iran. Similarly for ports, etc.

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@SteveJ111 @AndrewKolvet @rngname123 @hasanthehun @daveweigel There are American military bases in the UAE.
How does that not compute with you?

The entire gulf are basically vassal states, absolute monarchies, that repress democracy in their own countries so western countries can build military bases and exploit their resources.

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@Afoldes81 @GoyEmpanada Wait, are you out here trying to argue that we are calling for everyone within the borders of Israel to die?
Buddy, start back and square 1, and don’t join in conversations where you don’t know what the fuck is going on. Because you look foolish.

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@Afoldes81 @GoyEmpanada Right.
So you’re right there in league with Germans who think there should be a German state for ethnic Germans based on ancestry. Or fascist Italians. Or imperial Japanese.
Which means what when there is a place that is only 30% Jewish? How is that possible?

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@Afoldes81 @GoyEmpanada You’re kidding, right?
You are really trying to pretend like nobody cares about the Armenian genocide?

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@Afoldes81 @FromTsion @GoyEmpanada I’m sorry, who said that any of these countries have a right to exist?
Your bad faith points are just ridiculous. You’re not going to win this one, buddy. You’re trying so desperately to rationalize this, but it can’t be done with Zionism. Which is why they resort to genocide.

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@Afoldes81 @FromTsion @GoyEmpanada You actually feel like the crimes of the past make you ENTITLED to commit the same crimes.
What a joke.

What you’re doing is trying to rationalize and justify something where there is obviously some dissonance, and doing so corrupts your soul like it has 90% of Israelis.

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@Afoldes81 @FromTsion @GoyEmpanada You’re truly a fucking demonic person.
Genocide was wrong in the US, Canada, Americas, Australia, etc.
This isn’t a game of “we get to do it too”
You’re such a tool, man. Seriously reflect on how morally dim you are.

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@Afoldes81 @pinkietendril @GoyEmpanada There have been volumes written about the moral failing of the atomic bomb. Are you fucking for real?

The UN was a colonial tool by western powers, as was the League of Nations, and it changed rapidly. No, the zionsts & BRITISH came up with the partition plan, aka apartheid.

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@Afoldes81 @GoyEmpanada In the 19th century and before, Jews made up the notable merchants & intellectuals in urban centers throughout the Middle East. A Jewish Arab and a Christian Arab were minorities, but were not foreigners and were not systemically persecuted in the Middle East, no.