@hol1daygirl1031@0neandonlybase@bjack2599514338 oh wait, okay actually this is on me i thought you meant "they [carol and asgore] weren't there for susie getting the guitar [to take it away]"
you're still wrong and im not humoring you anymore but that's my bad
@hol1daygirl1031@0neandonlybase@bjack2599514338 okay i decided to give you the benefit of the doubt and i looked it up and no it literally does not in any way imply that at all even a little bit. i am done talking to you.
@hol1daygirl1031@0neandonlybase@bjack2599514338 yeah man it is very clear that he and carol are in some way working together. he probably doesn't know almost anything but "hey this teen is roaming around your house" isnt crazy info to share
@hol1daygirl1031@0neandonlybase@bjack2599514338 either asgore calls her or she knows something is wrong because kris doesn't check in
you DO realize you have the same problem if it's the knight, right? the dark world still gets made at the same time
@hol1daygirl1031@0neandonlybase@bjack2599514338 characterization
also the knight made the fountain early because carol told it to, even if you assume from the scraps of phone call that they were intending to MAKE the fountain that night and not do something in the already made fountain
@hol1daygirl1031@0neandonlybase@bjack2599514338 "it seems its hard for them to verbalize on call" no it seems like they can't talk. they have laughed and roared and that's it. i dont know why it would be different in person when they could very easily have used their voice to aura-farm like they seem to love doing.
@hol1daygirl1031@0neandonlybase@bjack2599514338 that in no way implies carol herself would physically go home, especially when she could literally just call noelle
you are starting from your conclusion and working backwards. the evidence overwhelming points towards carol being on the phone. please reflect.
@hol1daygirl1031@0neandonlybase@bjack2599514338 i cannot stress enough that you are saying that "susie has the guitar" "ill be right there" [carol shows up and takes the guitar] is in any way less of a smoking gun than "there is a dark world in the church already"
@hol1daygirl1031@0neandonlybase@bjack2599514338 the knight doesn't seem to be able to talk at all so the call does not fit it better. her call on the weird route doesn't contain any sensitive info so she doesn't feel the need to obscure herself. you have the same question to answer for why carol comes home early if its not her
@aggadahGothic this is actually pretty compelling yeah, but that is still definitely one step more removed than "he looks like asriel because he's kris's horn headband"
@aggadahGothic i suppose this is fair, i don't think there isnt ANY payoff but i think its less than the obvious appeal of headband
i do think my main problem with this theory is ralsei's lack of plant associations or even the yellow color scheme of the hometown trees