they are not "literally" saying a lot of vegans are not seriously involved then they would have actually literally written it like Imagine if someone said we shouldnt give a shit about gay rights until weve solved feminism, the two are compatible! there is no reason to seperate!
@gunk1997@CinnamonDLuxe ok i already addressed the first one. they never denied that food insecurity is caused by animal agriculture. they didnβt say people canβt care about two issues at the same time. they are literally just saying that a lot of vegans are not seriously involved.
@lozengeluv No they are talking about vegans in general literally those are the words they are using how are you reading anything else. this person isnt even a vegan so why the fuck would they be talking about specific vegan infighting, be real for a second.
"You are never going to appeal to enough people" nihilism, you could literally say this about anything, stop justifying yourself with language you can use to justify anything
@gunk1997@FreeFormLurk@CinnamonDLuxe How is it nihilist to recognize that not everyone places the same level of priority to animal welfare? I know ppl who care more about the broad environmental or health aspects. As long as they eat less meat, why does it matter why they do it? But no, you insist on moral purity.
@lozengeluv vegans are a part of solving food insecurity even if they aren't active in their community, animal agriculture is literally a driving factor of it. Ask yourself why make a whole fucking post specifically shaming vegans when they are much more likely to be invested in these things
@lozengeluv@CinnamonDLuxe im literally just talking about the first post I can keep going if you like but I think I already made it clear that this whole argument is based on assumptions and misinformation.