So you accuse me of using AI because you canโt answer the arguments.
I brought โุฃูุณุช ุฃููู ุจุงูู ุคู ููู ู ู ุฃููุณูู ุโ for a reason. Itโs the sentence that immediately precedes โูู ู ููุช ู ููุงู ูุนูู ู ููุงู.โ You canโt separate the two. The Prophet ๏ทบ first established his authority over the believers, then used the word mawla. Thatโs exactly why I brought it up.
And yes, I use AI to polish my English and fix spelling because English isnโt my first language. I donโt use it to invent history or fabricate evidence.
Every historical point Iโve made comes from sources that I can cite. If you think theyโre wrong, refute the sources and the argumentsโnot my grammar or the fact that I use AI to improve my writing.
Attacking how I write instead of what I wrote only shows you have no answer to the actual evidence is all you have ๐.
Again, you resort to insulting mothers because you canโt address the actual issue.
Youโre calling mutโah โprostitution,โ but that only shows you havenโt studied Shia fiqh.
In Shia jurisprudence, mutโah is a marriage contract with clear conditions: mutual consent, a specified dowry (mahr), an agreed duration, observance of the waiting period (iddah) afterward, and any child born from it is fully legitimate with established lineage and parental responsibilities. Those are legal responsibilitiesโnot prostitution.
You donโt have to agree with it. Sunnis reject it, and Shias accept it. But disagreeing with a ruling is different from deliberately misrepresenting it.
If you want an honest discussion, criticize what Shias actually believeโnot a strawman filled with insults.
That explanation raises more questions than it answers.
If Ali had supposedly โfailed,โ why would the Prophet gather tens of thousands of Muslims, raise Aliโs hand before everyone, and end by saying, โO Allah, befriend whoever befriends him and oppose whoever opposes himโ?
If it were only about calming a few complaints from Yemen, a private conversation with the complainants would have been enough. Instead, the Prophet made one of the most public declarations of his life immediately after the Farewell Pilgrimage.
Your explanation doesnโt fit the scale of the event. It reduces one of the most significant sermons in Islamic history to a local HR dispute.
Youโre asserting your interpretation as if itโs the only one, but the Arabic language doesnโt support that.
The Prophet ๏ทบ first asked:
โุฃูุณุชู ุฃููู ุจุงูู ุคู ููู ู ู ุฃููุณูู ุโ (โAm I not more entitled to the believers than they are to themselves?โ)
When they replied, โYes,โ he immediately said:
โูู ู ููุช ู ููุงู ูุนูู ู ููุงู.โ
The connection between โุฃูููโ (having greater authority) and โู ููุงูโ is exactly why Shia scholars understand mawla here to mean authority and guardianshipโnot merely โclose friend.โ
This isnโt something Shias invented. Classical Arabic scholars such as Abu Ubaydah, al-Farraโ, al-Zajjaj, and al-Zamakhshari all acknowledged that mawla can carry the meaning of โawlaโ (one with greater authority or entitlement) depending on the context.
As for Yemen, repeating โAli was a jokeโ isnโt evidence. If the Prophet believed Ali had failed, why did he publicly praise him at Ghadir instead of publicly rebuking him? Your interpretation doesnโt answer that questionโit simply assumes its own conclusion.
You keep calling mutโah โprostitution,โ but itโs obvious you havenโt actually studied what Shia scholars teach.
If youโre going to criticize mutโah, at least learn what it is first. Donโt base your beliefs on random videos or propaganda. Throughout history, people have spread misinformation to discredit groups they disagree with. Thatโs why serious people go back to authentic sources, not viral clips.
Also, if youโre going to criticize Shia jurisprudence, be consistent. Some Sunni scholars permit misyar marriage, which is also a form of marriage with different conditions. Sunnis and Shias simply differ on which type of marriage they consider religiously valid.
Disagree if you want, but donโt replace scholarship with insults. If youโre interested in the truth, study both sides from their own sources instead of repeating stereotypes.
Your argument doesnโt hold up.
You say โmawla only means ally.โ The Qurโan itself proves otherwise:
(ููููุนูู ู ุงููู ูููููู ููููุนูู ู ุงููููุตููุฑู)
(Qurโan 8:40)
Does that mean โAllah is your allyโโor your Protector and Guardian? The meaning of mawla depends on the context. It does not only mean โally.โ
As for Yemen, Imam Ali was carrying out the Prophetโs orders. Some people complained because he refused to bend the rules for them. The Prophet defended Aliโhe did not condemn him.
And if Ghadir was only about a complaint from Yemen, why did the Prophet stop thousands of pilgrims after the Farewell Hajj, gather them in the desert, raise Aliโs hand publicly, and declare, โWhoever I am his Mawla, Ali is his Mawlaโ?
Your explanation doesnโt account for the scale and significance of what happened at Ghadir.
Iโve said what I had to say.
You answered with insults, not evidence. You called everything โlies,โ yet you never addressed Ghadir, Khaybar, Karbala, or any of the historical points I raised. Instead, you chose profanity and insults toward Shias, Iraqis, and Ahl al-Bayt.
As for saying Iran will become โShia-free,โ history doesnโt change because of slogans or wishes. People follow what they sincerely believe to be the truth, and no amount of hatred can erase that.
I leave the judgment to Allah. May Allah guide us both to the truth, soften our hearts, protect us from arrogance and hatred, and grant us the humility to accept the truth wherever it is.
ูุงูุณูุงู .
You keep saying โlies,โ yet you still havenโt refuted a single historical point with evidence. You just repeat insults.
No one is forced to become Shia. Every year, people from Sunni, Christian, atheist, and other backgrounds study early Islamic history for themselves and choose Shiโism because they become convinced by the evidence. You may disagree with their conclusion, but you canโt pretend they all converted because someone forced them.
As for those born Shia, weโre encouraged to study our beliefs, question them, and strengthen them through knowledgeโnot blind imitation. If Shiโism were built on lies, it wouldnโt survive scrutiny after 1,400 years.
The irony is that instead of discussing Ghadir Khumm, Karbala, or the historical sources, youโve spent this conversation insulting Shias, Iraqis, and even the family of the Prophet ๏ทบ. That isnโt how someone confident in the truth behaves.
Truth doesnโt fear questions. It doesnโt need profanity, racism, or insults to defend itself. If you have historical evidence, present it. If all you have is โShia lies,โ then youโve already admitted you canโt answer the actual arguments.
The difference is simple: youโre using insults, while Iโm using history.
You claim Shias insult everyone, yet Grand Ayatollah Sayyid Ali al-Sistani and many other Shia scholars have repeatedly forbidden insulting the wives of the Prophet (pbut) or revered Sunni figures because it only spreads hatred. If some individuals do it, they are acting against the guidance of our highest scholarsโnot representing Shiโism.
As for Imam Ali, your claim that he was โjust a soldierโ ignores both history and the Prophetโs own words. At Ghadir Khumm, the Prophet publicly declared: โWhoever has me as his mawla, Ali is his mawla.โ Shias understand this as the Prophet appointing Ali as his successor. After the Prophetโs death, events unfolded differently, and that disagreement is one of the central historical differences between Sunnis and Shias.
You mock Imam Aliโs leadership, yet this is the same Ali who carried the banner at Khaybar after others had failed. The Prophet said he would give the banner to โa man who loves Allah and His Messenger, and Allah and His Messenger love him,โ and Ali led the victory. Calling him โjust a soldierโ ignores one of the most famous events in early Islamic history.
Regarding Aisha, Shia scholars differ with some of her political decisionsโespecially her role in the Battle of the Camel against Imam Aliโbut disagreement with her actions does not justify insulting her. Criticizing a historical decision is different from abusing someoneโs honor.
Youโve spent this entire discussion calling people names and insulting Ahl al-Bayt. If your position were based on evidence, you wouldnโt need profanity or personal attacks. History deserves evidence, not arrogance.
You know youโve lost the argument when you stop talking about history and start talking about my nationality.
โIโm Iranian, you Iraqis are our shoes.โ Seriously? Thatโs not an argumentโitโs arrogance. Your passport doesnโt make your opinion a historical fact.
Then you claim Imam Ali and Imam Husayn were โbadโ and โmade dumb mistakes.โ Imagine having the arrogance to think you know better than the men whom the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) praised, loved, and entrusted. Imam Ali was one of the greatest companions of the Prophet, and Imam Husayn gave his life rather than legitimize tyranny. Whether youโre Shia or Sunni, they are among the most honored figures in Islam.
You havenโt quoted a single historical source. All youโve done is insult Iraqis, insult Shias, and insult Ahl al-Bayt because you couldnโt answer the facts.
History doesnโt remember Imam Ali and Imam Husayn as failures. It remembers them as symbols of justice, courage, and sacrifice. The only thing your comments demonstrate is that arrogance is much easier than evidence.
Youโre lying about history.
The people who killed Imam Husayn were the army of Yazid, led by Umar ibn Saโd under the orders of Ubayd Allah ibn Ziyad. Thatโs a documented historical fact. Claiming โthe Shias killed Husaynโ is a distortion of history. The people of Kufa who abandoned him after being terrorized by Ibn Ziyad are not the same as saying โShias killed him.โ
And calling Imam Husaynโs stand โa dumb mistakeโ is insulting the beloved grandson of Prophet Muhammad . Husayn refused to legitimize the rule of Yazid because he believed it violated the principles of Islam. He chose martyrdom over allegiance to tyranny.
As for Ashura, yes, Muslims commemorate Allah saving Prophet Musa (Moses). But pretending that this somehow erases the massacre of the Prophetโs own grandson at Karbala is another attempt to rewrite history.
Stop repeating sectarian propaganda and read the historical sources instead of slogans.