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#investecconversation chatting to another banker after the event (who knows his way around a bal sheet) & thinks way more than R200bn of debt needs to come off the @Eskom_SA balance sheet. Are we going to see a quarter of a trillion rand bailout for this state-owned utility?? 😳
#investecconversation @SAReserveBank Kganyago: The difference between wealthy nations and poor ones is not resources, it’s about how you develop your people, citing the varied results of Nigeria and South Korea.
#investecconversation @SAReserveBank Gov Lesetja Kganyago “restoring confidence is the cheapest form of stimulus” - quoting Larry Summers. “Despite how hard we try to keep visitors away, tourists still come. They want to come and experience the country. We don’t need a grand plan
#investecconversation @Investec Holdsworth: business confidence is at historical rock bottom levels. So growth will come 12-18 months AFTER business confidence improves.
#investecconversation @SAReserveBank Governor Lesetja Kganyago “is the @BMW X3 coming out of the Rosslyn plant a South African car, or is it a German car? The car is made here, but the biggest component of the car is German IP.”
#investecconversation @SAReserveBank Governor Lesetja Kganyago “to embark on QE inflation there must be 2 conditions: 1. Inflation must be so low it might go negative. 2 Interest rates must be close to zero. Are these conditions met on SA? No. It’s not an option in SA!”
#investecconversation @ferialhaffajee “It’s confusing because it sounds like we have five finance ministers” (Mboweni, Gordhan,Gongodwana, Magashule and I forgot the last one] 😝
#investecconversation @ferialhaffajee The @MYANC has not yet retracted the statement [in Reserve Bank independence] so it stands as the record. The @PresidencyZA has not yet said anything.
#investecconversation @Investec Holdsworth The president @CyrilRamaphosa receives a report on the operational performance of @Eskom_SA every morning. So they do have a grip on the problems. But we need growth to dilute debt to GDP
#investecconversation @Investec Holdsworth: if @Eskom_SA energy availability factor averages 65% we are not going to get growth. If it goes to 70% we can get some growth. It’s been close to 70% but it’s been before an election.
#investecconversation @SAReserveBank Gov Lesetja Kganyago “What did the ratings agency tell us, they like the strength of our institutions. So what do we do? We attack them.” [Madness expression]
#investecconversation @SAReserveBank Gov Lesetja Kganyago “Key institutions of our democracy got gutted. The barbarians arrived at the Reserve Bank, but not from the direction we expected. And what did they want to do - change the mandate! We had to go to the courts to protect
#investecconversation @SAReserveBank Governor Lesetja Kganyago “without economic growth you cannot have jobs, what part of this do people not understand???”
#investecconversation @SAReserveBank Governor Lesetja Kganyago “Tne fathers and mothers of our constitution told us we need price stability as a necessary condition of balanced and sustainable growth”
#investecconversation @SAReserveBank Governor Lesetja Kganyago “the SARB is tasked with protecting the currency in the interests of balanced and sustainable growth”
#investecconversation @SAReserveBank Governor Lesetja Kganyago “I have known what I have always known: quality institutions matter in a democracy even more. You don’t ask the @SANDFCorpEvents to shoot down inflation.”
#investecconversation @investec CEO Fani Titi “There is a funny notion jobs are created out of nothing,but we know they are a consequence and outcome of economic growth”
Kicking off with @JoanneGJoseph, @ferialhaffajee and @Investec's Chris Holdsworth at #InvestecConversation.

Here with @KPMGSA's @JoelenePierce and @Barloworldequip's Mangakane Masemola, looking forward to tonight's #InvestecConversation - Connecting Out of the Ordinary.

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