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I'll try to get on with #MaterialGirlsReading this weekend. Next up is the chapter about what sex, which is *very* interesting.
I'll try to be a bit more brief from now on...
biological sex.
This finally concludes the first chapter. Thanks to everyone who's still on this ride with me.
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"Gender identity theory" says that gender identity "should be legally and politically protected. It also says that biological sex is irrelevant and needs no such legal protection". This is the transition to the next chapter, in which Stock talks about
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At the end of the chapter, she explains that "the relatively uncontested prominence of gender identity theory in many circles matters very much" (what...) and has consequences that "do material harm to many, including to some trans people themselves".
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"neutral" because they (accoring to her) have an interest in "gender identity theory" being correct? Hm.
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Stock then explains that cis people should be able to argue about gender identity theory and it's practical consequences. "As a lesbian and as a sex-nonconforming woman I too have skin in this game [...]." Remember how she said (one paragraph ago) are not
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claim that the reason for that is a theoretical disagreement with "gender identity theory" (though I absolutely do not believe that this disagreement really is the basis for her political claims https://t.co/K1oIdPLzgx).
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One more thing to add: Even if she had started from a neutral standpoint, actually read theory, and found it unconvincing, an opposition to trans rights doesn't necessarily follow from that. It would still be a fact that she
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time I actually agree with here. Not about many trans people assuming that, but that trans rights don't depend on a specific theory's correctness. The problem is that she *does* argue against trans people's political and legal rights, and she *does*
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Back to the subchapter. Stock claims that "[m]any trans people assume - wrongly, as I will eventually argue - that the existence and recognition of their political and legal rights depends upon gender identity theory's correctness".
This is the first
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"inner feeling"/"innate identity" claim.
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Now to be fair, the fourth chapter is about what gender identity is. In that chapter, Stock presents different theories again and also mentions those that reject the idea of "innateness". But why then does she keep repeating the
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the claim that it's about the "innateness" of gender (that's based on one Stonewall quote), there are the subchapters about it's key moments that are pretty superficial and misrepresent the views of the authors that are mentioned, and that's it.
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their neutrality".
Honestly, Doc, I think most people care more about you arguing against trans people's rights, not whether you like Butler or whatever.
Side note: So far, we haven't yet established what "gender identity theory" actually is.
There's
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once and for all.
In the case of "gender identity theory", there actually is extra reason to think that there are errors. Why? Because "some (though not all) trans people so clearly desperately want gender identity theory to work, which might be affecting
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She says that there were and are a lot of bad theories, so "rigorous critique" is necessary. There is always "room for error" - except in her theories I guess, because she tought she'd simply convince everyone and settle the matter
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Stock thought that her arguments were so good that everyone would immediately agree she's right
Stock continues: "As an academic I can't responsibly do that [give a free pass to bad theorising] [...]".
Sorry not sorry, that one made me laugh.
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once again. https://t.co/Aldte39UVm
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In Gender Wars Kathleen Stock says the intense controversy is ultimately whether trans women are women, and I do not think that’s true! It’s about 1) how trans people exist in society, 2) state regulation they’re subject to, and 3) how it is acceptable to treat them
a good fit with other existing productive theories? To rule these questions out as automatically 'transphobic' is potentially to give a free pass to bad theorising."
WHO did that. Seriously, who.
I'm gonna throw @christapeterso-s thread in here
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"Does a given theory explain the evidence well? Are there rival theories that might explain the evidence better? Does the theory help us explain and predict what people care about? [Huh?] Does it have other explanatory virtues such as simplicity, and is it
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The first part is certainly true. The second part... well, glass house, stones...
"As such, then, all of these theoretical postulates should be available for robust critical examination [...]."
Sure. You might wanna read them first though.
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