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β«οΈ Calling SCN, a nerve, is itself is MISNOMER.
β«οΈ It is a composite neural complex containing TN + CPN within a paraneural envelope.
β«οΈ TN & CPN are distinct nerves.
β«οΈ Each has its own epineurium, fascicles, perineurium.
β«οΈ Therefore:
SCN paraneural boundary β TN/CPN epineurium.
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β«οΈ Extraparaneural β outside the SCN paraneural envelope.
β«οΈ Subparaneural β inside that envelope.
β«οΈ Yet injectate may remain outside both TN & CPN epineuria.
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β«οΈ Thus, spread may look βintraneuralβ relative to the composite SCN while remaining extraneural to its component nerves.
β«οΈ Nerve swelling on ultrasound β proof of intraepineurial TN/CPN injection.
β«οΈ Previous MRI/sonographic studies have already demonstrated this important terminologyβanatomy mismatch.
βIntraneuralβ means little unless we specify WHICH boundary has been crossed.
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β«οΈ Cross TN epineurium β intraneural to TN.
β«οΈ Cross CPN epineurium β intraneural to CPN.
β«οΈ Remain outside fascicles β intraneuralβextrafascicular.
β«οΈ βSubepineurialβ therefore belongs within this broad extrafascicular domain.
β«οΈ Cross perineurium β intrafascicular/endoneural.
Paraneural β Subparaneural β Subepineurial/Extrafascicular β Intrafascicular
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β«οΈ Paraneural/subparaneural spread was universal.
β«οΈ Deeper subepineurial and extrafascicular spread occurred variably.
β«οΈ No intrafascicular spread was demonstrated.
But important limitations remain:
β οΈ No histology β exact microscopic boundary crossing unconfirmed.
β οΈ Needle-tip position uncertain β deeper dye cannot automatically prove sequential inward migration.
β οΈ No pressure monitoring β mechanism of tissue separation remains unknown.
β οΈ Latex + cadaver β LA + living nerve.
β οΈ Very small sample β TNβCPN differences remain hypothesis-generating.
β οΈ βSubepineurialβ & βextrafascicular intraneuralβ may represent different depths of the same continuum, not completely separate compartments.
β οΈ Absence of fascicular dye β proof of clinical safety.
Most importantly:
The study demonstrates DISTRIBUTION, not necessarily TRAJECTORY.
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β«οΈ Much of the reassuring βintraneuralβ literature comes from the popliteal SCN.
β«οΈ Prior clinical, MRI, sonographic & cadaveric studies have shown that:
apparent SCN intraneural spread may actually be subparaneural or extrafascicular.
β«οΈ Their findings therefore cannot be automatically extrapolated to ordinary single-epineurial peripheral nerves.
The βsafe intraneural SCNβ narrative may partly be an ANATOMICAL NOMENCLATURE problem.
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β«οΈ Popliteal SCN β simple single-epineurial nerve.
β«οΈ Think TN + CPN within a specialised paraneural complex.
β«οΈ Extraparaneural β subparaneural.
β«οΈ Subparaneural β intraepineurial TN/CPN.
β«οΈ SCN spread may appear βintraneuralβ while remaining extraneural to TN & CPN.
β«οΈ Subepineurial = intraneuralβextrafascicular to the individual nerve.
β«οΈ Intraneural β intrafascicular.
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Which boundary was crossed : PARANEURIUM, EPINEURIUM or PERINEURIUM?
Anatomy should define the terminology, not ultrasound appearance alone.

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