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On behalf of a friend of mine:
Just because you can, doesn't mean you should....some people are trying to move on with their lives....
#TrueGRIME
Content creators fuel interest in these crimes and traffick in pain for personal gain. They have a hand in sending their audiences on the pathway toward attending events like Mind of a Serial Killer where they view similar items to the ones for sale here. It’s all #TrueGrime.
#TrueGRIME
Truly one of the most disgusting things I’ve ever seen.
https://t.co/3IgFgOsDsM
#TrueGRIME
Content creators and media have no issues saying "alleged" but they make no effort to ensure they and their editors don't use mugshots of VICTIMS.
This is an abuse, and further victimizes these young women who had their entire loives stolen from them.
Newsday did an amazing family supported write up on Valerie Mack- there is NO need to use her mugshot.
Family of Jessica Taylor gave us some of the most poignant pictures of Jessica Taylor- we should never see her mugshot ever again-yet here we are.... no more warnings, I will call you out, tag you and shame you for being unethical and disrespectful... no excuses...
@PayLab1224 I have yet to watch it but will this week.
Sadly, I’m all too familiar with #TrueGrime #Grifters and the damage they cause… I find myself stunned how they justify their horrendous behaviors.
Thank you for thinking of me among those doing honorable work…
Greed Grifters and #TrueGRIME
Minor rant….
There was someone sitting a few seats away from me saying how today was boring, that he “wants to hear what happened”….its people like him, the “gawkers”, the ones that “love this stuff”… #TrueGrime
The other thing that bothers me is the lack of people at court during these Frye hearings…I guess they only come from the sensational moments….
I’m there for the right reasons I believe. To stand for and with families, to honor the girls, to observe the legal process, and learn the science and share what I learn.
I recognize that this is Real Crime, with Real victims and Real families…and I guess most people don’t get that…. 😞
@hummingbirdess @YouTube None of it was necessary....the cops did the right thing, that entire video should never have been released and anyone that pushes it out there is exploiting and precious family. #TrueGrime
@jcow1969 Can not wait to listen on my morning walk! THIS!!!! THIS!!! THIS!!!! @Catch_LISK used the best hashtag- #TrueGrime - it's not only up to creators BUT we consumers of content to reject the non ethical smut.
⚠️ATTENTION Every1 esp Content. Creators in #TrueCrime #TrueGrime I 💯 agree, Raul! AnY1 courting Sensationalist, #ClickBait, retravmatizing 🐂💩is in opposition to v1ct1ms& doesn't deserve to use the title "Advocate" ever. #FactsMatter #EthicalCoverage #TheFactsAreBadEnough 💜
Grifters, Snake Charmers and True Grime
Since the reckless press conference, John Ray and his “expert technician” Lena have gone on a ‘media blitz”, attempting to dazzle the public with salacious comments, to put forth tenuous innuendo and then the manipulation of a morsel of truth wrapped in fantastical fiction, using victims and callous descriptions to shock the fickle public into carrying the John Ray banner.
John Ray has been this story-teller for years. He’s made up scenarios regarding Shannan, incorporating insults levied against her and her Mom, Mari. John Ray has an affinity for the dramatic, it is one thing to dress dramatically, but it is wholly disrespectful to call Shannan a “nasty bitch”, to dabble in disgusting and illogical “hunting/bow and arrow” theories that are hurtful to her memory and debilitating to her Family.
John Ray is the poster boy for the True Grime community.
He has imbedded himself in this case and has spun a web of folly all around the center of his narcissism. And he attacks when he feels threatened with irrelevance. The Taylor Family fired him, privately, respectfully, and he had his “expert technician” and her “perennial sock puppet” husband attempt to bully and discredit the Taylor Family in public forums such as Reddit and Twitter. It all went away when these “experts” produced page 2 of a document that could only have come from the office in Miller Place, and got called out for it. They over-played their hand. They think this is some sort of game to be played, all at the expense of victims and families. It is a distraction, it is abhorrent, yet the snake charmer continues to insert himself in places he does not belong.
On June 6th, 2024, the day Sandra Costilla and Jessica Taylor got Justice, John Ray claimed he represented “several LISK victims”, he does not. Media gets it wrong to this day, but they are learning, particularly when called out on it, and many who would have covered a John Ray presser, stayed away from his latest one, well done….incremental success...
John Ray does not represent a single Gilgo Victim. Read that again, John Ray does not represent a single Gilgo Victim. Full Stop.
He’s done that for years and years, he’s propagated the illusion that he speaks for the Gilgo Families; repeating it so much until it becomes a part of the lexicon of Gilgo itself, like a tick, latching on and sucking it’s way under the surface hoping to exist in some symbiotic way in order to remain relevant.
John Ray’s “altruism” is duplicitous and to be blunt, a con. He has missed his opportunity to hold Hackett accountable; a motion to dismiss his civil suit is being considered by the court. When the civil case is dismissed what happens to the unwitting sacrifice of Shannan Gilbert? Was it all in vain? A civil case could be a trial within 12-18 months, yet it is already 11 years and there is still nothing to show for it, in fact it’s most likely to get tossed. #Grifting
John Ray’s partner in Grime, Fran Nicotra has also done nothing to protect the interests of the Gilbert Estate since the death of Mari Gilbert. Ray and Nicotra moved with lightning speed to take advantage of Sherre Gilbert. Utterly shattered by the death of Shannan and the murder of her Mom, they capitalized on this incomprehensible time to extract a signature to make Fran co-executor of the Gilbert Estate. This was just an attempt to further worm their way in deeper. Fran did nothing to protect the Gilberts, allowing media hounds to make money off of the tragedies from documentaries, movies, books and interviews and innumerable articles riddled with inaccuracies. All the while begging the public to help “recoup expenses” by donating to the Magdalene Dismas Society, a Go Fund Me that has generated nearly 26K to date (adding 10K since the farce of a presser). John Ray’s play on words regarding the name should be interpreted in much the same way he interprets nefarious meanings exemplified during the recent press conference. As John and Lena have been saying lately “taken in totality”, John Ray’s name calling of Shannan and Mari, while misrepresenting Mary Magdalene as a “prostitute” really shows us insight into what John Ray truly thinks, which is very little of Shannan, of Mari and of every other Gilgo Victim (none of which he represents).
From the page: *(Magdalene Dismas Society takes its name from the former reputed prostitute who stood at the foot of Christ's cross, and the "good thief" who was crucified with Christ: Two unlikely heroes).
On the GFM page John Ray and the Grifters, begun using the LISK acronym in order to attract the public’s attention to the macabre. Also from the GFM: This paticular (sic) GofundMe campaign for LISK will continue to remain active and open for continued donations. Through Magdalene Dismas Society Inc., John Ray and his team of experts will continue their fight for the victims and their families. In 2011 John Ray stepped up to give a voice to the voiceless. Since then, he has literally exhausted thousands upon thousands of dollars of his own money representing the families of the deceased victims…..All of the cost associated with the evidence and facts gathered by Mr. Ray and his team that can not (sic) yet be disclosed to the public due to the ongoing LISK investigation, were covered by Mr. Ray.
In order for John Ray to continue his investigation and representation of the LISK victims and their families, he still very much needs our help.
Once again, John Ray does not represent one single Gilgo Victim, not one single Gilgo Victim.
Again, misrepresenting the facts, bread crumbing and gaslighting while attempting false equivalency as an angel “gatekeeper” working tirelessly on behalf of no one actually. In contrast, I have used the “CatchLISK” handle for several years now, I equate the acronym as a verb, an actionable placeholder for definitive facts, open source information, links and timelines, among other resources for true, actionable advocacy.
Since his press conference, the Mass Media has distanced themselves from John Ray and his cohorts. Dr. Gary Brucato has walked back his gross participation (while throwing shade at the public for not being as smart as he thinks he is). But thirsty content creators are flocking to John Ray and providing him a forum to spew his misrepresentation of the facts. Layered with the gross negligence of bloggers using untold degrees of separation to weave tales of connectivity and conspiracy, of sex parties and serial killers, of satanists and cannibals, all the while, using victim role playing in horrendous fictional scenarios and calling family members "secondary victims”, yet another vile term intended as a derogatory slight towards the families.
This is the irresponsible pablum the True Grime community is consuming, like cannibals themselves.
Lorraine Poe, was a swinger. She was involved with a former NYPD detective, that much appears to be true. The rest of her story does not measure up. John Ray and Lena said recently on a podcast, that how could Lorraine know about the “burn can” listed on the HK Document, that only just recently came out, well easy, because after LISK’s arrest, neighbors interviewed made the claim that RH was burning things in his backyard, that is where the burn can was first mentioned. Lorraine mentioned seeing a Xmas tree and a conch shell in the home even though it was February, well….one of the first images that came out was a picture from inside the home that had a Xmas tree in the background, so that gets added in to her affidavit. Lorraine claims she was in the house for a swingers party in February…well….that was added in to the affidavit because we know that Karen Vergata made a call to her Father on Valentine’s Day. This is how they mesh fact and fiction and the public devours it as definitive. Verbal manipulation.
The Taxi Driver affidavit has some truth to it as well, easy enough to validate this taxi driver and the company she drove for, but totally unsubstantiated claims to link LISK to Shannan can only have been the impetus for Hackett’s lawyers to file the motion to dismiss because John Ray is linking LISK to Shannan, so Hackett couldn’t possibly have been involved in Shannan’s death. John Ray has sabotaged his own civil case and last hope to get Shannan some measure of Justice, even if it were a malpractice wrongful death verdict….wasted opportunity, sacrificing Shannan while keeping himself “relevant” in the LISK case.
“Alice Poe” made all sorts of nonsensical claims that she was in a room with Burke, LISK, Bittrolff and Macedonio, all smoking crack-except for her of course…Alice became another expendable pawn John Ray and his “experts” used to try to slander Jasmine, Jessica’s cousin and Taylor Family indefatigable Advocate. “Alice Poe” has since been relegated to the background, incompetent and unhinged, with much more to lose than the “In John Ray We Trust” stance she previously held…. I see you DN and how you were manipulated….I hope you can escape from John Ray as easily as you claim you did from LISK.
Throughout a recent podcast interview with John and Lena, they make claims and then walk them back with phrases such as: “Tangential, not concrete connections, perhaps”, “kinda have to guess”, and “what are the chances”, gets lost on the public because they are still absorbing the ridiculous, sensationalistic and exploitative comment prior to the walk-back, this is how snake charmers, charlatans and con-artists maneuver.
True Grime consumers will never go away and sadly this will all increase in intensity as the LISK case will undoubtedly become all the world will talk about while grifters will do all they can to be relevant, to gather clicks and followers, to ingratiate themselves into the conversation, and to make money off of the brutal murders of innocent people. But it is critical to remember the women who had their lives taken from them and the families who have had their loved ones stolen from them.
I don’t speak for any family member. I don’t hide behind a pseudonym or a fake You Tube name, anonymous Reddit account, or any Twitter Troll account. I am out there as the real me, standing up for real victims of real crime, speaking real truths and real facts. The victims are not characters in a story, they are real humans with real loved ones and hurting any of them will draw my attention, and I am not alone. The victims belong to their loved ones, they do not belong to the public, they do not belong in B-movie thriller scenarios.
Be respectful, be ethical, be true. Think about how you'd feel if your loved one was a victim and then reflect on what you are doing and if you'd be ok with it being done to you.
Say their names:
Sandra Costilla, Jessica Taylor, Maureen Brainard-Barnes, Melissa Barthelemy, Megan Waterman, Amber Lynn Costello.
Karen Vergata, Peaches, Toddler, Valerie Mack, Asian Doe, Judith Ramona Veloz, Tanya Rush, Natasha Jugo, Andre Jamal “Sugar Bear” Issac, Manorville Males, and sadly IMO dozens and dozens more……
#VictimExploitationDoesNotEqualVictimAdvocacy
#CatchLISK
@Catch_LISK @DrGaryBrucato Thanks for update! Holy ****! Opinion: Bunch wants clicks+ "angle"! Always suspect massive misogyny in #TrueGrime If #DomesticViolence or #Femicide is even whispered which is an USA & Global Epidemic, get shamed for "causing trouble" &/or ignored Any shred of credibility flushed
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Debunking The Arrow
Lot’s of theories emanating like an Icelandic volcano lately, spewing innuendo and creating a feeding frenzy for the #TrueGrime consumer and a hot ton of it is disrespectful and as speculative as it is sensationalizing.
*** Trigger Warnings as I am compelled to use some graphic content…***
Let’s address this “theory” that Shannan was hunted and killed by an arrow, or that her hyoid was intentionally drilled as “some sort of torture”.
I will make every attempt to present a logical and respectful argument, with facts, because facts matter, and will conclude with my own personal opinion on this….”theory”.
To begin, let me state what part one of this “theory” is presenting to us:
* The hole in the hyoid bone was intentionally created- “who, but a surgeon has the capability” to accomplish that?”.
The hyoid bone basically holds up the tongue. It does not connect to any other bone and is connected by membrane and muscle. It is on average, 2.5cm x 1cm, (which is less than an inch by just over 1/4 inch). The hole present in Shannan’s is 3/16th of an inch. (See link 1, below).
There are extraordinary challenges in order to accept that the hole was intentionally drilled, on a kitchen table, in the early morning hours.
* Any incision on the neck would incur loss of blood.
Even on a heavily sedated person there would be internal movement.
* The precision required to visibly see and control any movement in order to drill a 3/16th inch of hole in a “bone” thinner than the width of your “pinky” nail, is remarkable.
* Since Shannan’s hyoid horns were missing, this means that as decomposition set in, this relative tiny bone surrounded by membrane and muscle, would eventually fall away. Note: remember Shannan was missing for 19 months.
* So to even remotely consider the drilling go the hyoid as a possible “signature” is pure overreach on a level not even Hollywood could imagine.
* There would absolutely be an abundance of wildlife at the location. Membrane and muscles would attract every sort of creature and the weather elements would also contribute to the rate of decomposition.
John Ray has suggested that the drilling of the hyoid was “potentially, some sign of torture took place”
(See link 2)
* The most logical cause of the hole in Shannan’s hyoid is that during her development she had a Thyroglossal Duct Cyst. These cysts occur in approximately 7% of the population. (See link 3).
* Another logical explanation of the hole is wildlife. Grab any one of millions of seashells along every beach in the wold and you will nearly always find one with a perfect hole in it. Oystercatchers tech at the hardened seashells in order to extract the sustenance within. They are prevalent in droves along every Long Island Beach. (See link 4). Oystercatchers leave perfectly round holes and can easily peck through a bone that is 1cm thick, especially if that bone is surrounded by membrane and muscle.
Another recent theory is that the hyoid was penetrated by an arrow, suggesting that Shannan was hunted or at the very least held in place while struck with an arrow.
Last night I heard, rather irresponsibly hypothesized, that while running, on the phone with 911, she was struck in the hyoid, precisely in the hyoid by an arrow, causing the hole.
* The odds of striking the hyoid on a moving target is astronomical.
* The odd of striking the hyoid on a stationary target is astronomical, statistically more possible than a moving target, but astronomical none-the-less.
* Many scientific factors come into play here, the distance of the target, the pull of the arrow, the speed of the arrow. I am not smart enough to extrapolate that info so find it below on link #5
* The speed of said arrow would predicate the damage done to the bone (see links 6 and 7).
Let’s address some of the Affidavits.
An affidavit is Latin for "he has declared under oath") is a written statement voluntarily made by an affiant or deponent under an oath or affirmation which is administered by a person who is authorized to do so by law. Such a statement is witnessed as to the authenticity of the affiant's signature by a taker of oaths, such as a notary public or commissioner of oaths. An affidavit is a type of verified statement or showing, or in other words, it contains a verification, which means that it is made under oath on penalty of perjury, and this serves as evidence for its veracity and is required in court proceedings.
Making an apparently sworn false statement in the first degree is a class E felony. This means that if you are convicted your sentence could include a prison term of up to 4 years, a probation term of 5 years, and payment of a fine.
That’s if it can be proven that the statement is patently false.
I am not saying any of these “witnesses” are making any sort of false claims or embellishing any part of recollections.
To this, John Ray has repeatedly stated that he and his “team” carefully vetted the voracity of these statements and “found them credible”.
* I am curious of the criteria he and his team used to make the determinations of credibility.
* He bolstered confidence in these claims by stating he was supported in these by former Suffolk County Police Commissioner Rodney Harrison because Harrison was present at the podium during the introduction of the “Lorraine” and “Taxi Driver” affidavits.
* Harrison did indeed nod his head, often, in agreement with some of what John Ray said.
But not once did Harrison nod his head or acknowledged in words or body language that he validated these claims.
Harrison does confirm that they “had identified RW” and have interviewed him.
In a subsequent Newsday interview, Harrison clarified that he doesn’t substantiate or debunk the affidavits, but that it is the role of the Taskforce to investigate.
This doesn’t validate the entirety of the affidavit.
Respectfully and smartly, RW remains unknown to the public (for the most part) and perhaps the ongoing Taskforce will continue to investigate the allegations in all of the affidavits.
I want to be clear that I am not besmirching any of the Poe’s affidavits or of their experiences as they have recounted them. A victim is a victim and trauma is very real and I pray they each have a solid support foundation to help them manage the trauma and the media attention that undoubtedly is latching on to them.
I am also not seeking to engage in any way with John Ray or his “team” in any adversarial capacity. My role is to interrogate the purported realities.
John Ray has been always ready to advocate for Shannan Gilbert. He has used his position as a lawyer to challenge the narratives coming out of SCPD and Oak Beach….
However…..
Is he and his ‘team” actively undermining his own decade long crusade to bring accountability in the death of Shannan Gilbert?
The attire and the theatrics aren’t upsetting to me, I can easily get past that, lawyers can often be dramatic.
What troubles me is the civil case against Hackett.
Is this attempt to link Shannan to RH, and RH to Burke, and Burke to Hackett and Hackett to Gus, and Gus to Brewer, a feeble attempt to reinvigorate the “cabal theory”, magnified by the often “reaching” theory of RH, his ordained aunt, his LEO cousin, or disgraced upstate 2nd cousin while existing in the same dirty whirlpool of Alan Placa, and Jeffrey Epstein?
I am also not saying that there aren’t groups of men doing terrible things, trafficking people and obstructing the law, but that doesn’t mean a lone serial killer has a “team” actively supporting him, at least in this case.
If I were Hackett’s lawyer I would wear some similarly outlandish outfit while waltzing into court to submit a motion to dismiss since JR doesn’t seem to think that Hackett is responsible for the (IMO), murder of Shannan Gilbert.
If this civil case gets dismissed…I personally would want some legal advice on malpractice…..there are many great lawyers running around right now……..
My personal opinion is that the victims are being victimized all over again, (people still can't get beyond using the word prostitute), that the families are being re-traumatized, while an alleged serial killer is somehow benefitting from a 7 figure “documentary” deal, while true victims and survivor families struggle to get by, not a one of them are even remotely close to being a millionaire.
I try to remain balanced, I am a Libra after all��.but sometimes those pendulums weigh heavy to one side.
This is one of those times.
I stand firmly and immoveable from the position of supporting the right people: the beautiful people who had their lives stolen by a depraved individual, the families of those beautiful people, and for truths and justice and a whole lot more empathy and respect in this world.
#CatchLISK
#FactsFuckingMatter
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