@madscaler1@Yonin7x powerscalers sneakily smuggle an overly demanding standard when it comes to this. you don’t need to know every property of a chair or human to have a meaningful imagination of one. proof for most ppl would be nothing short of kubo saying gremmy studies space. which is absurd imo
@madscaler1@Yonin7x if gremmy can originate a character whose power involves removing himself from memory, body, soul, existence, etc then his imagination clearly isn’t restricted to “i can only reproduce things i’ve personally seen”
it isn’t “he can erase, therefore he can create a star”
@JOYBOYdvoidcent@KirigayaK9@RHoque25334@Ijswannagoonbru@HakuGilSimp@RKVSVerse this is why even VSBW, which is known for downplaying the big 3 (on purpose btw) couldn’t even hold onto the gin thing.
it’s relying on a lie about speed to measure the same thing the lie was about. you would need to take other feats to properly place it,not the other way around
@JOYBOYdvoidcent@KirigayaK9@RHoque25334@Ijswannagoonbru@HakuGilSimp@RKVSVerse clap speed (databook) vs sound speed (your wishful argument) being the thing ichigo is reacting to , the benchmark thing holding no weight, & if you believe it was mach500 you would be wrong bc he explicitly lied about that very thing.
@madscaler1@Yonin7x this is different than conceptualizing “there’s no chair in this room” btw. & either way should be at least more of a demanding conceptual task than “imagine star” bc that has positive content. bleach also doesn’t shy away from letting the us know when properties are fake
@madscaler1@Yonin7x it’s fair if u don’t think so. Gremmy doesn’t appear to require direct empirical acquaintance w the thing being imagined. he apparently has enough conceptual understanding of a negative ontological state to instantiate it as a functioning power.
@JOYBOYdvoidcent@KirigayaK9@RHoque25334@Ijswannagoonbru@HakuGilSimp@RKVSVerse we’re both crying ‘it’s just fiction’ i’m just more honest about it. it is directly stated he says the extension matches the speed of his clap (which you initially denied). this is the speed ichigo is reacting to & this is the speed that exceeds sound.
@JOYBOYdvoidcent@KirigayaK9@RHoque25334@Ijswannagoonbru@HakuGilSimp@RKVSVerse you would have a stronger narrative argument for the gin thing if the author of this series didn’t have other instances where he used similar language to “measure” characters that are already above said measurements. the speed being a lie anyway is just a great complement to this