since we are here i also hate when you guys use her to dunk on kpop groups ( which yeah she obviously is a big inspiration for them even when they are trainees) but don't engage with her art or support her music on it's own.
i think what gets to me every time this convo comes around is that men not only don't understand the hot girl enough to get that her friend is doing what she wants them to, but also that they assume hot girls have the same disdain for their less attractive friends that men do