@fngamer6363 @playdirtysk @TheTicketPicks@triloonas I don’t think this discussion is getting either off us anywhere. Let’s agree to disagree and call it a day.
@fngamer6363 @playdirtysk @TheTicketPicks@triloonas Literally nobody said there can’t be objective patterns in attraction. ‘People tend to prefer X’ is an empirical finding. ‘X is objectively beautiful’ is a value judgment. You’re repeatedly treating evidence for the first as evidence for the second.
@fngamer6363 @playdirtysk @TheTicketPicks@triloonas Then we agree. There can be objectively measurable patterns in attraction. That still doesn’t make the trait itself objectively attractive. You’ve spent this entire conversation proving that preferences can be measured, while I’ve been saying they aren’t objective standards of be
@fngamer6363 @playdirtysk @TheTicketPicks@triloonas Lunar eclipses show Earth casting a consistently curved shadow; ships disappear hull-first over the horizon; Earth’s curvature has been measured from high-altitude observations; and spacecraft have directly photographed Earth as a sphere. That’s independently verifiable evidence
@fngamer6363 @playdirtysk @TheTicketPicks@triloonas Yes. And unlike your beauty claim, the Earth being round is objectively measurable. That’s literally the distinction I’ve been explaining!!!!
@fngamer6363 @playdirtysk @TheTicketPicks@triloonas You keep saying ‘objective’ without defining what makes it objective. A measurable majority preference establishes a statistical trend, not an objective standard of beauty. If your entire argument is ‘most people agree,’ then you’re arguing popularity, not objectivity😚
@fngamer6363 @playdirtysk @TheTicketPicks@triloonas Congrats, you’ve demonstrated a majority preference, not objectivity. If 99% of people preferred one colour, that wouldn’t make the colour objectively superior. ‘Most people like X’ and ‘X is objectively better’ are two different claims.
@fngamer6363 @playdirtysk @TheTicketPicks@triloonas Switzerland can be judged by measurable outcomes. Beauty can’t. A common preference is measurable, but the preference itself doesn’t become an objective fact just because it’s common
@fngamer6363 @playdirtysk @TheTicketPicks@triloonas Of course attractiveness can be studied statistically. That tells you what people tend to find attractive, not what is objectively attractive. A measurable consensus is still a consensus not an objective property. You’re arguing semantics at this point…😑😑