So the ball is in the club's court. Do they choose to double down on what they must know privately has been a disaster. Or do they take the approach that vest serves our football club and our fans and accept we need to stop and consult and listen to the advice then act upon it
Our aim should be to see as close to zero sanctions as possible because we educate, warn and design systems which reduce the incentive to game or prevent it altogether.
If we don't do that the future for fan-club relations is bleak. What a waste of all the effort over years..
The club needs to draw a line in the sand. Cancel all ST loss sanctions unless they have proof of actual touting. And nobody sure be sanctioned on suspicious activity patterns alone. Let's have a reset and an adult discussion about what activity is and is not allowed
Nobody should be losing a ST on the basis of suspicious activity alone. That is a nuclear sanction and we should pursue education, warning and lesser sanctions before that ultimate sanction is used.
We can think of some - but none of them are good for our fans or our football club.
Let's see whether the club has the humility to recognise the problem and work with fan reps to correct it.
We have discussions lined up with the club and don't want to pre-empt those discussions. However it is impossible not to ask the question of the club, how can the immense damage this whole exercise has done to fan-club relations be justified? We know the cost, what's the benefit
Naturally our priority has been to challenge the whole exercise while we also deal with unprecedented numbers of individual cases who contact us. Such has been the volume of that we're still working through individual cases so apologies. These take priority over social posts
We understand the mass sanctions email campaign is complete for Season Ticket holders at least.
Just sharing this info as we know there are STHs feeling anxious.
As per our statements, including joint statements across all fans groups, we absolutely reject this approach
@TraMufc@muyscofficial@The__1958 7/ Once an official written response has been received from Manchester United, it will be shared in the interests of transparency and fairness. The potential consequences of the Club’s response will also be shared as soon as they have been confirmed.
@TraMufc@muyscofficial@The__1958 6/ • Explain its apparent policy of reducing the number of Season Tickets.
• Confirm that all reclaimed Season Tickets are reissued as Season Tickets to supporters on the Season Ticket waiting list.
@TraMufc@muyscofficial@The__1958 5/ In summary, we have reiterated the demands made by the FF (detailed below):
• Immediately halt the ongoing suspension process.
• Immediately retract all unproven suspensions.
• Confirm the current number of Season Tickets.
@TraMufc@muyscofficial@The__1958 4/ Earlier today, a message was sent to Manchester United emphasising full support for the Fans’ Forum’s recent letter relating to the premature suspension of Season Ticket Holders without required evidence.
1/ JOINT STATEMENT FROM MUFC FAN GROUPS
Many attempts have been made in recent years to bring together influential supporter groups that can prioritise the often underrepresented voice of Manchester United’s match going supporters.
4/ As plans become more detailed, supporters need genuine opportunities to influence them before key decisions are taken.
Why independent consultation matters
3/ In many ways, it is where the most important discussions begin.
The club has confirmed that supporter consultation will continue as the project moves into the next phase. MUST welcomes that — but we believe consultation should not simply continue. It should intensify.
2/ Manchester United has confirmed the proposed location for a new 100,000-seat stadium, approximately 350 metres north-west of the current Old Trafford, as part of the wider Trafford Wharfside regeneration project.
Today's announcement is not the end of the conversation.