@joey_z74@HaloNoSprint Except I didn't. Since I'm the subject of this post, your comment's obviously directed towards me, even if you conflate me with the others.
Seriously, Joey. Learn to talk to people because you come across as extremely childish.
@HaloNoSprint@1FlashofLight@bogdan925385@1192GuiltyPlea@Mixmaster226 Already did. I don't trust Xperia's framing because he's known to be biased against anything else, especially with how he subjectively downplays competing evidence or reasoning.
But I've got nothing to say to you, go find your shadow.
@1FlashofLight@HaloNoSprint@bogdan925385@1192GuiltyPlea@Mixmaster226 Terminal 4 describes her encounter with humanity and building Excession. Terminal 6 corroborates that it's Earth with her constructing Eden.
She describes them in distinct terms, like "them" and "special", suggesting they're different from herself.
@1FlashofLight@HaloNoSprint@bogdan925385@1192GuiltyPlea@Mixmaster226 If that's how you feel about Halo 3, then that makes using the dialogue of Spark, Truth, and Gravemind less effective as evidence.
I also think Halo 3's writing is the weakest of the trilogy, but it's every part still relevant.
They also aren't telling the truth just because.
@1FlashofLight@HaloNoSprint@bogdan925385@1192GuiltyPlea@Mixmaster226 The terminals depict the Librarian encountering a "special" species on Earth unlike herself. Who else could they be if not humanity?
And yes, dialogue from villains is always ambiguous. It's part of what makes them villains.
@1FlashofLight@HaloNoSprint@bogdan925385@1192GuiltyPlea@Mixmaster226 That's an ad populum and a dysfunctional way to reveal anything. Just because a lot of people believe and say the same thing doesn't make that thing true. Tangible evidence is required, like the cut ending if Halo 2 — but that was *cut*.
@1FlashofLight@HaloNoSprint@bogdan925385@1192GuiltyPlea@Mixmaster226 Also, don't forget that this particular plot point created exactly zero ramifications to the story. If Spark's dialogue was meant to be the "big reveal", then it was delivered at a point where it was so irrelevant to the story's present circumstance.
@1FlashofLight@HaloNoSprint@bogdan925385@1192GuiltyPlea@Mixmaster226 It tells lies through omission and half-truths, often with ambiguous language and exploitative to the listener's assumptions. Such as presenting cooperation as mutually beneficial and withholding the Flood's strategic objectives.
Also, it's the Flood. A scary grimdark villain.
@1FlashofLight@HaloNoSprint@bogdan925385@1192GuiltyPlea@Mixmaster226 And the Gravemind, like I said, could very well be lying since that's what it's known to do to terrify and manipulate its enemies.
Truth isn't necessarily lying, but he could be very well mistaken. The Gravemind is however almost entirely untrustworthy.
@1FlashofLight@HaloNoSprint@bogdan925385@1192GuiltyPlea@Mixmaster226 What we know is that the Convenant can use Forerunner tech except for what's designated for Reclaimers. And Reclaimer could simply be a moniker the Forerunners imparted onto humanity. Basically a whitelisted title. Truth doesn't realize this to be a possibility.
@joey_z74@HaloNoSprint I actually never attributed his behavior to rampancy because I acknowledge it's 343i lore. Simply being confused is sufficient to describe his behavior.
And you're the one who said I lacked "basic media literacy", not the other way around.
Misrepresenting.
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@iamrevaci@bogdan925385@1192GuiltyPlea@Mixmaster226@HaloNoSprint Is that your actual answer? Are you fucking retarded? HOLY basic lack of media literary, That belongs to the prophets/ covenant (the Entire reason the human covenant war started) Either way that’s a shitty fucking excuse for a retcon and I can’t believe you are ok with that
@1FlashofLight@HaloNoSprint@bogdan925385@1192GuiltyPlea@Mixmaster226 And the Gravemind is also known to deceive and manipulate it's enemies to verify them, also fallible.
And Truth is a religious zealot who only knows it downstream of Mendicsnt Bias, who is also compromised.
Literally every source corroborating this is a fallible villain.
@wiggartha@bogdan925385@1192GuiltyPlea@Mixmaster226@HaloNoSprint In CE, there's no indication that the character Spark is confusing Chief with is Forerunner, but he is mixing Chief up with another character. On an individual basis.
Then in 3, he calls Chief Forerunner, meaning this 'character' is presumably Forerunner.
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@1FlashofLight@HaloNoSprint@bogdan925385@1192GuiltyPlea@Mixmaster226 I'm not. Regardless of 343i's lore, Spark is demonstrably mistaking Chief for someone he personally interacted with in the past. 343i's lore is what gave this disembodied character a name and background, but the silhouette of that character already existed.
@1FlashofLight@HaloNoSprint@bogdan925385@1192GuiltyPlea@Mixmaster226 I'm not. Regardless of 343i's lore, Spark is demonstrably mistaking Chief for someone he personally interacted with in the past. 343i's lore is what gave this disembodied character a name and background, but the silhouette of that character already existed.