@matthew_sede@jarldietrich Wow. Disgusting. Humbling even to watch a fall off like this. It could really be any of us. Even if he’s anti Sede now, do so with a shred of dignity and humility. He’s clearly lost his head through pride, and is falling into a mental ditch. Sad. What a thing to see.
@AlognonOdi15454@WalmartThomist It’s not. The Church is made of the FAITHFUL who assent to divinely revealed religion that is UNCHANGED and UNCHANGEABLE.
The V2 religion and the Novus Ordo is a total departure from dogma and tradition, and as such cannot be the Church
It’s clear, simple, logical - and true
@Adoh_A@AlognonOdi15454@WalmartThomist You don’t need “authority” to draw a logical conclusion from the shambles of the Novus Ordo, and the near total loss of faith amongst purported Catholics.
70% don’t believe in the real presence.
If this isn’t the great apostasy, I tremble at what it will look like
@AlognonOdi15454@WalmartThomist How are there invalid sacraments?
And think about it - how does a 1, 10 or 100 year vacancy objectively “make the Church invisible”. That’s illogical. There’s no objective point that it becomes “invisible”
The Church resides amongst Catholics who hold the pre V2 religion
@AlognonOdi15454@WalmartThomist It doesn’t. The timing is up to God, not us.
When has it defected? 1 year? 10? 100? That argument fails.
We’re in the Great Apostasy, as prophesied many times in Sacred Scripture. It makes sense that we have a long period of crisis and a near total loss of faith.
@AlognonOdi15454@WalmartThomist How are there no sacraments or bishops?
Unity is found in the desire for a true Pope and principle of unity
The visible church resides in traditional pre v2 Catholics & clergy.
It’s just missing a head, for now, as in any interregnum following the death of a true Pope.
@StayRight239@WalmartThomist I don’t believe you understand the magesterium.
The Pope speaking ex cathedra, as universal teacher of the Church, is infallible. This can’t be changed by future Popes. If a future “pope” notoriously contradicts ANY dogma, he is a heretic.
Read S4:
https://t.co/dMXsHGDgxt
@StayRight239@WalmartThomist Some further examples
Also please read the Syllabus and you’ll see much of V2 condemned.
https://t.co/U5lcMOmtVL
Pascendi - condemns modernism, the theological basis for V2 which replaces objective Catholicism with subjectivity, religious “experience” and immanence.
@ModernBoethius Sure. If there was obvious, public proof of heresy and contradiction of dogma then yes, however, one would be correct as a true Pope cannot be a notorious public heretic.
But if that was believed with was no proof, then such a claim would be groundless and would likely be false