@Logical_Pressur@dumb_demoniwu I think at this point though, I'm a bit confused about your original response. You seem pretty open-minded, and although you said the LGBTQ+ community doesn't really line up with your morals, you seem more than willing to listen and be tolerant of them
@Logical_Pressur@dumb_demoniwu I mean it makes sense, what they say about first impressions. I'm sure I could have a nice conversation with anyone on the street, but if the first thing I heard them say was offensive/disrespectful, then I'm probably not gonna want to
@Logical_Pressur@dumb_demoniwu Might be the way you go about it. Like how this thread started, your response seemed kinda uncalled-for, so I responded in a more toxic way. Eventually we got to where we are now, but most threads probably die long before getting this far
@Logical_Pressur@dumb_demoniwu That's fair, I suppose. The intentions behind it were anything but toxic though, so if anything releasing your stress on will probably just leave people confused and compelled to retaliate.
@Logical_Pressur@dumb_demoniwu That's pretty fair! And I won't stop you from releasing any toxicity on here lol. Better than out in public. I guess I just think it's important to avoid normalizing behavior targeted at people who may not deserve it.
I'd rather just shit talk people over movie takes
@Logical_Pressur@dumb_demoniwu I feel like all people could fall into similar categories as this, no? Just based around different core aspects of themselves (political affiliation, gender, sexual orientation etc etc). Isn't that something we all have in common?
@Cubbymom3@jerry_in_japan@landpalestine@ICEgov But instead she avoided having a criminal record, developed a great career, and worked to make her community and country a better place.
Isn't that exactly what you would want from a citizen?
@Logical_Pressur@dumb_demoniwu From what I've seen, they do! I think the confusion comes once people start saying they're not bad because of their actions, but because of who they are. Saying a pedo is bad because they're trans, for instance
Rightfully some other trans people might not really appreciate that
@Logical_Pressur@dumb_demoniwu It is pretty fun. And going back to the topic at hand, trying to allow your mind to see the world they do and feel the way they may feel can be very introspective. Not to mention once you meet some of them, you'll come across some really cool and creative people
@Logical_Pressur@dumb_demoniwu That's completely fair! There are a lot of things I see a lot of people do that I would personally never do either. Or it may even disgust me to an extent. But I think it's important to also recognize that the majority of what we see =/= the majority of what exists
@Logical_Pressur@dumb_demoniwu It may be the way in which you give advice. You mentioned their lift style conflicts with your own morals, and whether you mean to or not, that may lead to your advice coming off a hostility
@Logical_Pressur@dumb_demoniwu And of course not every single one of them. Just like in any group of people, there are bad eggs. But just like with what you said about their being laws against discrimination, the general public will not stand for evil from any type of person. LGBTQ+ or otherwise
@Logical_Pressur@dumb_demoniwu Exactly, and I agree with you
But that's why there are allies, like me and maybe even you. Not giving up any rights to them, not paying them out of pocket, just standing with them so they know they're welcome.
@Logical_Pressur@dumb_demoniwu Yes, it is illegal in most places, but not everywhere. And the past has proven how quickly power can shift and certain rights can be taken away.
The right to exist without fearing persecution is all they're really fighting for. And that doesn't take anything from anyone
@Logical_Pressur@dumb_demoniwu Again, back to my previous statement. You can say all day long that nobody cares whether you're gay, queer, trans, etc etc all day long. But the fact that arguments like this happen on this website explicitly proves that wrong.
And really? "What will they ask for next?" Grow up
@Logical_Pressur@dumb_demoniwu Of course if you go by the literal dictionary definition of "equal rights," yes it would imply that. But use your brain. Do you really think that all of the progressive movements for equal rights are literally saying every single person, good and evil, should be coddled? Jesus
@Logical_Pressur@dumb_demoniwu Yes, it's exclusive. You can't genuinely think that people's moral compasses are so completely black and white. All you have to say is "Oh you support A? That means you support B then too, huh?"
And if no one would care, what was even the point of your first comment?
@Logical_Pressur@dumb_demoniwu Lol, if you genuinely think saying "I support everyone" means I support pedophiles, then I might as well be arguing with a dog.
And I'll answer that second point by saying no one has ever threatened to kill or arrest me because I like women. Could I say the same if I liked men?