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[KL @idontknow3899]

@narkyanarchist always made it very clear that they don't want Jewish sovereignty on the land. That's their choice, but while this is their desire then they will never have peace

[KL @idontknow3899]

@narkyanarchist continue

It's a 2 way negotiation, both sides have to accept imperfect conditions

Israel is not whiter than white. But to say they have never truly wanted peace is embarrassing. They have accepted multiple deals and elected multiple leaders to make peace. Palestinians have...

[KL @idontknow3899]

@narkyanarchist expectations you apply is astounding

You are welcome to for e.g. not like the Israeli government, but that doesn't change the reality of history

You will twist and bend and manipulate every piece of info to avoid acknowledging the evidence of your own eyes and ears

[KL @idontknow3899]

@narkyanarchist the multiple offers, their lives would have been significantly better

But they make moronic, self-harming decisions and get praise for it from people living in security in the West. It's never their fault, they're just poor innocent blameless victims

The soft bigotry of low..

[KL @idontknow3899]

@narkyanarchist stated that even if Israel withdraws, they will not recognise Isr, not accept peace, and will continue to attack

You can only claim Isr never tried for peace if you just ignore decades of empirical data, things that actually happened just pretend they didnt

[KL @idontknow3899]

@narkyanarchist Your use of the word 'negotiate' is bullshit. Fatah rejected peace, fact!

Of course they are willing to negotiate a deal that will never be accepted...I would be willing to be as good at football as Lionel Messi, I would accept that

Hamas changed charter in 2017, literally...

[KL @idontknow3899]

@narkyanarchist Your opinion about there being no good offers is just that..opinion

The Israeli right (i do not support) will also say it wasnt a fair deal

But Pals can always get a much better situation than they currently have, that is the benchmark. They say 'no' and turn to violence

[KL @idontknow3899]

@narkyanarchist they always say 'no'. They always say they want all the land

Just think how much better the lives of Pals/ Isra wold have been if Pals accepted one of many offers. Many lives saved

Instead they always choose decades of 'resistance' which has made their lives worse

[KL @idontknow3899]

@narkyanarchist Uncomfortable truth: Pals do not hold the cards in negotiations- Years of rejecting peace, starting wars, self harming decision in a zero sum situation

They will never get back close to history; but they can always get a back a significant improvement on what they have. Yet...

[KL @idontknow3899]

@narkyanarchist @EinatWilf Arabs were of course 'entitled' to reject 🇮🇱 state- Jews were also entitled to reject deals. Majority is irrelevant

You give them credit for negotiating after Camp David but no discredit for rejecting the initial offer

Pals pushed Israel to the politically to the right

[KL @idontknow3899]

@FillyKris @MC_of_A @ettingermentum Messi was more aesthetic to watch. But Ronaldo would excel in other areas

Ronaldo would win more knock downs, he had a better weak foot, he would run in behind more. These are all useful skills, they're just less aesthetic

Messi was always better, it was often close though

[KL @idontknow3899]

@MC_of_A @ettingermentum We agree on 90%

Sure, 'close' is subjective. Ronaldo fell within 10-15% of Messi's g/a numbers over 10 years, that's close!

I get other stats exist.

Have a look at Whoscored on historical even when Messi was insane, Ronaldo was just a tiny bit behind him

[KL @idontknow3899]

@MC_of_A @ettingermentum I agree with everything you said here. Before you said:
'it was never close'

My argument is:

It was often very close, but Messi was always clearly a bit better.

Your g/a numbers back that up

[KL @idontknow3899]

@MC_of_A @ettingermentum I think you're being harsh. Imo it was close for many years (2009-2019) but during this Messi was always a bit better. Messi has since pulled away

Klopp v Pep era. Pool pushed City close many times and even won PL. It was usually very close, overall City clearly better though

[KL @idontknow3899]

@SelecaoTalk He was really good for Man Utd this season so I understand why he started. Poor this game though

[KL @idontknow3899]

@IanDarke @Golfpunter1 There is huge correlation between having possession and winning football matches

Of course the most important stat is the score and you don't need to have high possession to win games

But having high possession massively increases your chances of winning- this is very clear

[KL @idontknow3899]

@Cfc_alexandro @xGPhilosophy would be going crazy!