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@AntiDustSprayy @remaininl1ght @Gr33nOnions How is insulting me going to prove your point? You clearly do not have a logical counter to my argument and if you do I'd like to hear itAnd given you seem unable to understand an analogy allow me to re-explain:
If everything one finds disgusting is immoral then homosexuality is

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@GikoJam @remaininl1ght @Gr33nOnions So then if someone found it attractive to do so you wouldn't call that person a "bad person" or look down upon the act?

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@GikoJam @remaininl1ght @Gr33nOnions I understand but the reason you see it as a given negative is because you -to some degree- believe in a baseless yet infallible morality where it's automatically evil to want or think that and I would agree it is but the problem is the baseless-ness in your claim

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@ChaoticNeu92786 @Arsgratiavitae @WhippedHybrids @remaininl1ght @Gr33nOnions What's a good person? What makes doing it with roadkill a thing that would make you a bad person? Isn't morality subjective? What if my morality tells me it's an entirely fine thing to do it? Am I therefore a good person?

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@WhippedHybrids @ChaoticNeu92786 @Arsgratiavitae @remaininl1ght @Gr33nOnions Of course something must prove the status of another thing be that by validation or not that's the whole point of logic, you're assuming for absolutely no inherent reason at all that something is a certain way and are clearly neurologically incapable of understanding otherwise

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@GikoJam @remaininl1ght @Gr33nOnions Immediate bodily harm is very different than that and even yet there are people who would do that, are they allowed to be zoophiles?

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@ChaoticNeu92786 @Arsgratiavitae @WhippedHybrids @remaininl1ght @Gr33nOnions Can you not understand a hypothetical? The whole point of the question is that it's extreme, are you suggesting questions shouldn't be asked because they might sound extreme?

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@GikoJam @remaininl1ght @Gr33nOnions Well, if you were guaranteed to not get diseased and also no one would know so it wouldn't effect the social dynamic, would you then consider it neutral and acceptable?

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@GikoJam @remaininl1ght @Gr33nOnions Well how would your instinct of self preservation stop you from doing it? Mind you I don't mean how would it not encourage you to do it rather I'm asking how is it negative instead of neutral

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@SomeGuyIguess5 @remaininl1ght @Gr33nOnions Is it the sole factor? Meaning would you do it if you were guaranteed to not get contaminated?

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@WhippedHybrids @Arsgratiavitae @remaininl1ght @Gr33nOnions Well WHY??? What's different in life that would warrant some difference?

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@WhippedHybrids @Arsgratiavitae @remaininl1ght @Gr33nOnions Okay then what makes someone need to respect a sentient or a previously sentient thing? Where is the axiom written? Who has decided it and based on what logic?

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@WhippedHybrids @Arsgratiavitae @remaininl1ght @Gr33nOnions Oh. My. God.
please scroll up a tad and you'll see the whole point was that atheists can't morally justify why it's wrong and it's been proven hundreds of times, if you believe in magic moral weight then you're no longer an atheist and we're debating something entirely different

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Because they're based?

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Why are we giving Islamic terrorists F-35s?

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@WhippedHybrids @Arsgratiavitae @remaininl1ght @Gr33nOnions Also just to return to your previous point about me strawmanning your belief in this magic moral weight, you just confirmed it once more, how is straw man if you word for word said it though?

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@WhippedHybrids @Arsgratiavitae @remaininl1ght @Gr33nOnions "Because objects are not living beings and therefore have no moral weight to them" is it not right to logically deduce you mean living beings have moral weight? How is it a straw man if you literally said it?

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@Nisikaa1 @remaininl1ght @Gr33nOnions That's honestly a very good take, I'll give you that, and it's the point I've been trying to make the entire time, unless we all share a non subjective moral code then there's precisely no reason to guarantee every person should see doing it with road kill as bad

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@Nisikaa1 @remaininl1ght @Gr33nOnions So you're fine with rape as long as the rapist considers it moral?

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@vincentcovetwo @WhippedHybrids @Arsgratiavitae @remaininl1ght @Gr33nOnions Well of course I can't answer because I don't think it's okay, how can I defend a point I don't agree with? But in a world with zero inherent morals (atheism) then there is precisely zero reason why it's bad either, so it's neutral