@Piss80564903 @JackysCornField the issue with this is that two time never belogned to toki. azure belonged to toki so thats understandable, but two time belonged to soul which is why their design and lore got reworked in the first place
@At4rie@EriccusWhite THANK YOU THIS WAS GENUINELY WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT. I even have the old screenshot where Vess was on bs talking about some "heres my headcanon" And its just. Calling two time putrid and a monster like sighh they deletd it tho i can try to find it
@At4rie i feel like in two times case, of course you'd rather listen to the person who raised, fed, clothed, and put a roof over your head for years until adulthood rather than somebody who just recently came into your life (i assume a few months-a year) especially when it'd be so random
@At4rie ^^^^ this! it gets worse everytime vess says something in regards to two time bc theyre always like "oh yeah two time is a monster!" when.. they shouldnt be. i think the way theyre approaching the lore isnt.. very good, im hoping toki salvages something even with vess spitting bs
@Coconut_C00Kies@At4rie EVERYONE hates it rn. i spent a lot of time trying to theorise and put together whatever the HELL is going on with their current lore but its 100% slop. vess is known to just bullshit everything in regards to azuretime it genuinely seems like theyre just hating for no reason
@Coconut_C00Kies@At4rie and when i say hate backlash i mean hate the backlash they'll obviously get for pushing some bs onto the lore, so maybe giving them access to write it freely is why 90% of the fanbase (besides the people who think azuretime was purely built on love) hates it atm
@Coconut_C00Kies@At4rie they basically villainize two time in a lot of their posts which they end up deleting and also just downplay cults and act like two time and azure are dumbed down to nothing while being in the cult, they also seem to hate backlash and delete their posts immediately afterwards
@At4rie i fear that with vess focusing on azuretime lore thats why people look down on cannibalism, nevermind the fact vess clearly hasnt done any research on cults because they basically villain two itme in every post they talk about them. its clearly obvious bias too
@At4rie ive seen that vess expresses a weird random hate for azuretime? they've made multiple posts in bad harm about the ship (now deleted from backlash) and ever since admitting to being a writer for their lore it feels like theyre just.. intentionally sabotaging their relationship
@Maybemeidk29121 I ALSO dont believe "elder's" refers to _multiple_ Elders i think it refers to elder amarah as in "[...] elder has", especially when azure finds the body basement. Two Time being brought up by amarah to be their loyal child means they wouldnt resist amarah's decisions at all
@Maybemeidk29121 For people liking this post i want to provide more proof to my theory because why would they NOT be referring to "Elder" Amarah here. Like look at them. Theyre on something and its clearly human blood
@pathologicy obviously the third game was the real lore drop and jaw dropper but i wish we got more info on noob and sixer's life and how sixer's choices affected the both of them in a better light/more depth
@pathologicy at least it feels more fletched out than sixer and noob's story during the first two games. it kinda just felt random and some filler to get to the last bit (4)