@DrPhiltill It is like arguing that owning a house or a Lamborghini is SOOO hard that most people can't do it. The analogous solution I hear from Mars advocates is, "Just do it; the economics will pan out naturally!"
@DrPhiltill If we could transition to a remote worker economy, that would be a big step forward in settling pretty much any place we like. The pandemic gave us that experiment. In theory, most office workers could work from home. In reality, management fights this tooth and nail.
@DrPhiltill The most practical arguments I could make against Mars are analogous developments. We have many examples of failed human settlements. We see why some fail while others succeed. At the top, the fact that settlements fail under Earth's environ suggests that Mars is near impossible.
@DrPhiltill It's true that humans can survive like wild animals on Earth, needing only food, water, air, shelter. That's not to say that these things you named give no survival advantage to us. We probably could not have 8 B people w/o autos, aircraft, fossil fuels, etc. or equivalent.
@DrPhiltill I don't believe that the primary problem of settling Mars is an engineering problem, tho the engineering problems certainly add to the liability of settling Mars. The primary problem is that Mars is not going to deliver enough benefit to convince people to pay the expense of it.
@DrPhiltill I think it's a good idea to be skeptical of expensive, risky ventures in general. No, I have not run any economic model on settling Mars. That isn't something I have an interest in doing, nor would it matter if I did run such a model, because everyone would continue as they wish.
@DrPhiltill@JeffGreason Silicon Valley exists because the US federal gov pumped billions of dollars into the area to create it for its usefulness in military aviation. This created an ecosystem that has continued to support it. Mars has no such seed.
@Shanunis7@KeystoneSP@greg_price11 "Recent studies show that up to 10 percent of Caucasian girls and 23 percent of African American girls are showing signs of puberty by age 7."
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@Ryan_v404 @jeffrichey @wapodavenport @IntelCrab Could be. Wait until we see the contents of that announcement. I bet it's more than just, "isn't science wonderful."
@Ryan_v404 @jeffrichey @wapodavenport @IntelCrab Normally, I wouldn't have a problem w a President doing that. However, everything this President has done has been duplicitous chicanery. Add that no President has ever simply promoted the 1st results of a science mission from the WH. It's suspicious.