@DunsmuirSmith@Ingridpilled so not only is the original logic provided, but now you can reflect in it being practiced in society and your own beliefs, unless you want to go full psycho nonsense and try to lay out the logic why you dont think children deserve to live as much as adults
@DunsmuirSmith@Ingridpilled yes that is true, im sure we both would agree a toddler is not the same as an adult. But 1 year old me and a 20 year old me are still the same organism and your moral terminology of “hold in the same light” would still apply in regard to being alive.
@DunsmuirSmith@Ingridpilled its a baby because its the same organism in a different stage of life, like the 1 and 20 year old, so I really was asking you to use predicate logic to answer your own question about born and unborn babies for a 1 and 20 year old
@DunsmuirSmith@Ingridpilled F(x) and B(x) being sequential stages of the same thing and my first response to you waffling was to ask you to apply the same logic to a 1 year old and 20 year old.
so i wouldnt go patting yourself on the back about how smart you think you are lol
@DunsmuirSmith@Ingridpilled considering that the first thing i said was a fetus is a baby implies that
F(x)->human (fetus is a baby)
B(x)->human (same baby, same bereavement felt by mothers)
@AngloPlayboy_ because I personally have a conviction for my beliefs... in your own argument believing something is a reason to contend for it and not believing in something is a reason not to so im surprised its even a question
@AngloPlayboy_@dominicaudio yeah im sure the anti natalism and declining birth rates crippling virtually every western country is christian as its core. Christians famously and historically known for never having kids and evangelizing their values
@AngloPlayboy_ no ones trying to convince you of anything so you believing if something is true or not is irrelevant, the point of my reply is you misunderstood something, which can still be true of myths, mathematics, literature, whatever
@DunsmuirSmith@Ingridpilled nothing about this requires you to prescribe to any religion or spirituality unless only religious people experience bereavement
@DunsmuirSmith@Ingridpilled a baby is a fetus, fetus is the latin word for baby. Unborn babies are “held in the same light” because normal people (not everyone) typically respect life and paternal bonds. When a woman miscarries its normal for them to grieve their loss
@Rhi5S0S@_2026_1892@fleurmeston if you think its profound that babies in utero need their mother to survive, its really going to blow your mind when you find out babies cant survive on their own after being born too. Most children even. I'm surprised you hadn't considered that before typing out your response