@tank14142 @Samurai_Japan01 There are more than 50 muslim countries in the world, an not a single one of them on the list, yet somehow trying to sneak blaming it on muslims!! What a fair observation from you!!
@RichardSuplee@reillydance @Lilith_Atheist And if you want to cancel your mind and follow some fanatic atheist scientists then good luck with your cult.
@RichardSuplee@reillydance @Lilith_Atheist Natural science only works in space an time, the atheists scientists only give guesses to what before without being able to prove it, and many honest athiest scientists can't but admit that's all gibberish!!
@RichardSuplee@reillydance @Lilith_Atheist but if this eternal cause itself began to exist , then it will need a cause, and its cause, if it began to exist, will need a cause, and so on. But this sequence of causes and effects is rationally impossible. Therefore, the real cause must be a cause that has no beginning .
@RichardSuplee@reillydance @Lilith_Atheist The evidence in its logical form: -There are events in this universe, and it is not rational for them to occur out of nothing without a cause, nor for them to occur themselves, so their cause must be something other than themselves...
@RichardSuplee@reillydance @Lilith_Atheist You just made a false claim that is far from the truth, for instance the cosmologist Vilenkin Alexander acknowledges that there is no single satisfactory model for a universe without a beginning!
@RichardSuplee@reillydance @Lilith_Atheist And just in order to run away from Prooving a designer, you making assumptions you don't even know! Like some cult member who is reading a script he is been taught, without trying to understand what he is saying!
@RichardSuplee@reillydance @Lilith_Atheist If i agree with you and call it energy, and we try to describe it, it has to be something outside of space an time, eternal, has power; in order to make our universe...oh wait!! Aren't these the sameΒ characteristics religious people give to what they call god?!
@RichardSuplee@reillydance @Lilith_Atheist The laws of heat, the laws of electrons, and solar energy each provided clear evidence that our universe isn't eternal.
If our universe came from a cause that has the same characteristics, then it would not be eternal and would need another cause for its existence, and so on.
@RichardSuplee@reillydance @Lilith_Atheist It's so funny that you admit our knowledge stops at the big bang, yet you identify what was before it so confidently!
You are trying to make a short story long, so basically you are saying our universe is eternal! And that's impossible...