@IsabeauVidal@PalmerLuckey the fact that you don’t understand what is being discussed here is incredible
The statement said “any”. The word “any” has a definition. It is not “whatever cities I decide”. It is not “of comparable population”.
work on your reading comprehension my guy
@zoink respectfully, this is an uninformed take
no kyc provider has source of truth data for this, the best they have are services that guess
unless you collect a proof of citizenship document (passport), only the US government has the ability to know whether someone is a citizen via API
Anthropic identity verification accepted drivers license and other documents
Thank you for engaging. Appreciate it and meant what I said about LDS and its members.
I think the root as you noted is definitional. Axiomatically you are defining Christianity as not having that core belief (“Christianity is a broader category”). What is the authority by which you ground that claim?
By the way, I completely grant that axiomatically I’m making the opposite claim and you could similarly ask me, by what authority do you ground your claim?
We would arrive at an impasse.
However, I would posit that the first people to call themselves Christian have the greater grounds to draw the boundary line. Just like the first people to call themselves LDS members have the ability to draw that boundary line.
If there is nothing that is reasonable as an argument as to who has greater grounds, then all words become meaningless.
Here’s a simple albeit absurd example. Say all the people in Australia start to use the word “zebra” to mean what you and I currently understand to mean “cat” or “zebra”. It becomes so prevalent that everyone who owns a cat in Australia interchangeably refers to their feline pet as a “zebra”.
People in Australia with a pet feel really close to the word “zebra” and start to use it all the time.
Now imagine you and I travel to Australia, hear that word being used that way and say “that is not a zebra” it is still an animal but it is not a “zebra”. To which Australians reply “I do not agree that is the boundary line of what a Zebra is”. Imagine even that this goes on for hundreds of years.
What is a reasonable way to resolve this? I would again posit that, without referencing any central entity as the arbiter of truth, one of the few reasonable things to say here is that the first people to use the word “zebra” have greater grounds as to what it means.
Now you may disagree with this but at least you may see why it’s a problem to axiomatically redefine a word (eg define a new boundary).
Coming back to what were we’re talking about, I think a reasonable way to look at this is to answer the question:
“What did the first people who called themselves Christian believe to be the core beliefs that made one Christian?”
Even if you disagree that the answer is what I gave, I’d be curious to hear what is your answer to that question.
Hi @AshtonVandy I’m genuinely curious, is there any core belief that you think separates a member of the LDS church from a non member? Even if you think they are a good person that may live their life with values very similar to yours?
I respect and admire LDS members very much but you’re wrong here. Christians believe that Jesus is the second person of the Trinity, not a created separate being, one in substance with the Father. LDS members believe in something different.
I agree that many comments online have been offensive, crass, and incorrect descriptions of what LDS members believe.
I also think LDS members have a deep, profound, and good natured faith. That the LDS church teachings are good and that an LDS member living out their faith will bring good to everyone around them. We are both seeking truth and that is good.
An analogy that could be useful, say I declared myself a member of the LDS church but I deny the Great Apostasy, the Restoration, and say that Joseph Smith is fabricated. I continue to call myself a full member of the LDS church.
Would you say that it’s important for members of the LDS church to note where the doctrinal differences arise? Would you say there is some core belief that separates a LDS member from a non LDS member?
For Christians, one of those core beliefs is that Jesus Christ is God, not created, not merely divine. One in substance with Father. Not a created being.
I respect and admire LDS members very much but you’re wrong here. Christians believe that Jesus is the second person of the Trinity, not a created separate being, one in substance with the Father. LDS members believe in something different.
I agree that many comments online have been offensive, crass, and incorrect descriptions of what LDS members believe.
I also think LDS members have a deep, profound, and good natured faith. That the LDS church teachings are good and that an LDS member living out their faith will bring good to everyone around them. We are both seeking truth and that is good.
An analogy that could be useful, say I declared myself a member of the LDS church but I deny the Great Apostasy, the Restoration, and say that Joseph Smith is fabricated fable. I continue to call myself a full member of the LDS church.
Would you say that it’s important for members of the LDS church to note where the doctrinal differences arise? Would you say there is some core belief that separates a LDS member from a non LDS member?
For Christians, one of those core beliefs is that Jesus Christ is God, not created, not merely divine. One in substance with Father. Not a created being.
@jakemmccleary
I respect and admire LDS members very much but you’re wrong here. Christians believe that Jesus is the second person of the Trinity, not a created separate being, one in substance with the Father. LDS members believe in something different.
I agree that many comments online have been offensive, crass, and incorrect descriptions of what LDS members believe.
I also think LDS members have a deep, profound, and good natured faith. That the LDS church teachings are good and that an LDS member living out their faith will bring good to everyone around them. We are both seeking truth and that is good.
An analogy that could be useful, say I declared myself a member of the LDS church but I deny the Great Apostasy, the Restoration, and say that Joseph Smith is fabricated fable. I continue to call myself a full member of the LDS church.
Would you say that it’s important for members of the LDS church to note where the doctrinal differences arise? Would you say there is some core belief that separates a LDS member from a non LDS member?
For Christians, one of those core beliefs is that Jesus Christ is God, not created, not merely divine. One in substance with Father. Not a created being.
@Schilling1776 I respect and admire LDS members but you’re wrong here. Christians believe that Jesus is the second person of the Trinity, not a created separate being. One in being with the Father. LDS members believe Jesus was a separate being, created. It’s a fundamental difference regarding the core axiom of Christianity (that Jesus is God)
@BasedMikeLee I respect and admire LDS members but you’re wrong here. Christians believe that Jesus is the second person of the Trinity, not a created separate being, one in substance with the Father. LDS members believe in something different
@BasedMikeLee@BasedMikeLee I respect and admire LDS members but you’re wrong here. Christians believe that Jesus is the second person of the Trinity, not a created separate being, one in substance with the Father. LDS members believe in something different
@jasoninthehouse@jasoninthehouse I respect and admire LDS members but you’re wrong here. Christians believe that Jesus is the second person of the Trinity, not a created separate being, one in substance with the Father. LDS members believe in something different
Won’t address how banal/empty the “I skimmed” bullets in this tweet are. Will leave that to others.
Respectfully, you could have used those characters to actually build a thought out.
You seem to like to write and some of your writing seems interesting.
Would be curious to read your take and will actually take time to read it fully if you do.
You noted what you would have found interesting, let’s hear it! Would genuinely be interested, particularly since you seem to frame it as novel (or at least you frame disliking things that “predictable”). I promise that I’ll give your writing more time, more thought and a more charitable chance that you seem to have given this encyclical.
Would be great to hear you grapple about the moral
implications as well and have your perspective be grounded/logically rooted in something.
It’s trivial also to just babble about the positives of AI. There’s a lot of them, specially since one could also talk about hypothetical future states. It’s trivial to just spend time enumerating hypothetical possible scenarios (e.g medicine, drug discovery, law, mobility, more time for creative work, etc, etc). That is not novel.
Would genuinely be curious about your perspective. Let me know here if you get a chance and I’ll head over to your substack or wherever you end up publishing.
Respectfully, you missed the whole point. It’s his journal. It’s his confessions, aka “here are my sins”. It’s literally the title.
What would people think of you if you wrote a journal with every single one of your sins and inner struggles? Would you judge yourself like you judge Augustine?
Wtf are you talking about?
Why post something so blatantly untrue and trivially falsifiable and yet still claim to respect your faith?
It takes 5 seconds to google, probably less time than it took to write your tweet.
2012 — In a video of his 2012 intervention for the Synod of Bishops, then-Fr. Robert Prevost said Western mass media fosters sympathy for practices “at odds with the gospel,” including abortion. AP confirms the statement and that it came from a 2012 video provided to Catholic News Service. 
•March 21, 2015 — Chiclayo, Peru — As Apostolic Administrator of Chiclayo, Prevost posted about a local March for Life: “March for life in Chiclayo. Let us defend human life at all times!” A later report reproduces the date, place, and wording of that post. 
•2019 — Chiclayo, Peru — In a homily identified as being in Chiclayo in 2019, then-Bishop Prevost said: “We cannot build a just society if we discard the weakest—whether the child in the womb or the elderly in their frailty.” Multiple later reports attribute that line to a 2019 Chiclayo homily. 
•May 16, 2025 — Clementine Hall, Vatican City — In his audience with the diplomatic corps, Pope Leo said governments must respect the dignity of every person, “especially the most frail and vulnerable, from the unborn to the elderly.” AP described this as Leo articulating clear Catholic teaching on abortion at the start of his pontificate. 
•September 30, 2025 — outside Villa Barberini, Castel Gandolfo, Italy — Speaking with reporters, Leo said: “Someone who says ‘I’m against abortion’ but supports the death penalty is not really pro-life,” linking abortion opposition to a broader consistent-life ethic. Vatican News and AP both place the exchange there and on that date. 
•January 9, 2026 — Hall of Benediction, Vatican City — In his New Year address to the diplomatic corps, Leo explicitly said: “Among these is abortion, which cuts short a growing life and refuses to welcome the gift of life,” and criticized funding for cross-border travel to obtain what he called the “so-called ‘right to safe abortion.’” 
•January 22, 2026 — message to the March for Life, Washington, D.C., United States — Leo sent a message praising the march as an “eloquent public witness” and urging efforts to ensure life is respected “in all its stages,” explicitly addressing the annual anti-abortion march in Washington.