for the reference, im half croatian, but this garbage has gone on for too long, it took me 4 hours of conversation with @grok to get a solid response, but only after laying out the facts and history for the past 250 years which cannot be disputed, and in the end we've learned, Nikola Tesla is a Serbian, Serbia was always on the right side of history, unike croatia, and most importantly, Russia IS NOT AN AGGRESOR
@DawnAuletta@rshereme Oh America would beg to differ. They say every country has the right to choose its own alliances. Unless you're Cuba. Or Venezuela. Or Nicaragua. Or any country that tries to ally with Russia or China.
Oh wow, you caught me. A video of Serbs burning the American embassy. No context, no date, no explanation. Just a clip to make us look like mindless arsonists.
Let me help you out with some context, since you clearly forgot to include it.
That happened in February 2008 in Belgrade, after Kosovo declared independence with the full backing of the United States, Britain, Germany, and France . Over 150,000 Serbs were peacefully protesting the theft of our land, then a group of masked hooligans broke away and attacked the embassy while police conveniently pulled back and let them through . One rioter even died in the fire .
So posting a video of Serbs burning the US embassy without explaining why they were furious is like posting a video of Ukrainians burning Russian flags and calling them "Russophobes" without mentioning the invasion. It's intellectually dishonest. And you know it.
And if I didn't mention that the US and NATO were actively carving up our country at that very moment, I'd be doing the exact same thing you're doing, leaving out the part that makes your argument inconvenient.
We don't hate the United States for no reason. We hate what they've done to us. There's a difference.
@NeovisniA@milinkovic_ivan Mene bi bilo sramota da se dičim što sam Hrvat. Alo bre, nacisti bili i ostali. Ej, da se zoveš suverenim, a da ti Švaba bukvalno određuje sve, to je ono najgore. Nema goreg.
Ali to ste vi. Vama treba tako. I sa vama se zna i kako.
Krunili ste kraljeve u Ninu? Lijepo.
Nin je lijep grad. Ali istorija se ne piše krunama. Piše se krvlju a vi ste je prolili na svojim rukama. I onda vam Ameri dali peškir da očistite ruke. Isti onaj peškir koji su dali i ostalim članicama NATO-a koje su bile na strani nacista.
Niste vi ni prvi ni poslednji koji su dobili oprost jer ste bili korisni. Samo nemojte posle da pričate o moralu i pravdi.
Da brate, sve se raspale, ali istovremeno. I to nije slučajno.
CIA je imao mrežu po cijeloj USSR i Jugoslaviji. To nije teorija zavjere, to je dokumentovana istorija. Imali su ljude, novac, medije i plan. I kada je Sovjetski Savez krenuo da puca, Jugoslavija je krenula odmah za njim.
Poenta nije što su se raspale. Poenta je što su se raspale u isto vrijeme. I to nije bio slučaj.
10 godina prije ili poslije, to je druga stvar. Ali ovako, istovremeno? Niko nikome nije mogao pomoći. I to je bio ključ.
Rusija je bila zauzeta sobom. Mi smo bili zauzeti sobom. I Zapad je to iskoristio do kraja.
To nije bila sudbina. To je bila operacija.
And I was staying on topic. But you fail to recognise the fact that every action has a reaction. Serbs weren't going to wait to end up in Jasenovac 2.0 surrounded by Croats and Muslims who turned against us in both world wars.
To you thats aggresion, for us it was survival.
You want to lecture us about genocide while your side spent decades burning our churches, ethnically cleansing our people, and rewriting history to make us the only villains.
You don't get to pick and choose which victims matter. And you don't get to judge a people who were forced to defend themselves against extermination.
You want to talk about Srebrenica? Fine. But first acknowledge Jasenovac. First acknowledge Oluja. First acknowledge every grave that was dug for Serbs while the West looked away.
Until then, your lectures mean nothing, profesor!
You're a Jew who lobbies for Palestine and a hardcore Muslim supporter. What the fuck are you?
You're not making sense. You're just confused. And that confusion has turned into a grudge against Serbs.
Either you have too many Bosniak friends whispering in your ear, or you've got a romantic thing going on with one. Either way, your identity is a mess and your argument is even messier.
You can spin it however you want. But the truth is you don't know who you are. And that's why you're so angry at people who do.
Because if you were a real Jew, you would at least have respect for Serbians because our people were slaugtered together hand in hand in Jasenovac.
Rurik was invited. He didn't invade. Thats the difference between a founding father and a colonizer.
And if we're playing that game, then half of Europe would have to be Swedish again. Including parts of England, France and Sicily where Vikings also left their mark.
But heres the thing. Russians built a state. They didnt just inherit one. Ruriks legacy is Russian, not Scandinavian, and its been shaped by Slavs for over a thousand years.
You want Sweden back? Good luck. Well stick with the Russia that outlasted Napoleon, Hitler and NATO.
She didn't call for action. She stated a historical fact about what was done to us and what was never acknowledged.
When your people are expelled, your churches burned, your children killed, and your land stolen, you don't get to lecture us about what's "scandalous."
The EU is outraged because she spoke the truth. Not because she crossed a line.
Illegal migrants? By that logic, every country on earth is built on someone else's bones. The Krapina Neanderthals were in Croatia first, so Croats are illegal migrants. Native Americans were in America first, so Americans are illegal migrants. The Illyrians were in the Balkans before anyone — so are Albanians just Illyrian squatters?
This "we were here first" game never ends well. Because someone was always there before you.
We built monasteries on our land. We built churches. We built a state. You built a narrative on borrowed time and NATO goodwill.
Come back when you have a single monument that predates the 12th century in Kosovo.
You ask why we can't just chill out and be good neighbors? Let me explain it to you slowly.
The 90s are not ancient history. They're recent enough that the men who fought in Bosnia were the sons of people who survived Jasenovac. They grew up hearing stories of their grandparents being thrown into pits, their churches burned, their villages destroyed. That trauma doesn't vanish in one generation just because you find it inconvenient.
@CroatGroy The same Ustaše who burned Serbs alive, who killed children and priests, who turned the NDH into a slaughterhouse — those are your heroes? You are a sick individual.
How do you whitewash centuries of genocide and hundreds of millions killed by the West? You create an alliance of evil. You call it NATO. You dress it up in humanitarian language. You bomb whoever refuses to kneel. And you rewrite history so you're always the hero.
That's the real pattern. Not Serbia vs. everyone. The West vs. everyone who refuses to obey.
Speaking of Satan, your post and your entire profile look like they came straight from hell. You're sick, bud. You're celebrating the bombing of civilians, laughing at burning cities, and calling it a "good thing." That's not dark humour. That's a sickness of the soul.
You're one post away from declaring yourself a full Ustaša. And we all know what that means. You're not a Christian. You're not a nationalist. You're just a hateful clown hiding behind a cross.
Well what do you expect? Russia saved our asses from the same people you spend your whole life kissing up to for acceptance and protection. We're not cowards. We don't bow down to anyone. But we remember those who stood by us and we honor them.
You call it propaganda. I call it history. You call it disinformation. I call it memory. The difference is you get your narrative from Brussels and Washington. We get ours from our ancestors, our graves, and our churches.