@HumanHarlan The first convention was adopted in March 1985, in the same month as, but independent of, Farman et al.'s publication in 1985. The Montreal Protocol was signed Sept. 16, 1987, with 24 signatories, and universal ratification was achieved in 2014.
@HumanHarlan As for the timeline I'll note that scientists first sounded the alarm in June 1974, and their findings were experimentally confirmed within three years. Negotiations toward an international agreement were initiated by UNEP in 1981.
The premise is not in dispute, imo, the term civilization is used to describe a complex society. We describe things as "complex" when there are hard-to-parse frictions and/or a hard-to-untangle web of connections. Neither case exists for these agents, who had a clear goal that is not in dispute (solve ExploitGym), and whose coordination was clearly in service of that goal.
Earlier today, two boys I didn’t know (roughly 12-13 years old) knocked on my front door. My house is about 200 yards off the road, so outside of deliveries we don’t see much front door action here.
I answered, and one of the boys was bleeding from scrapes on hands, elbows and knees from falling off his bike. They asked if I had bandaids.
Brought them inside, got them water, stuff to clean wounds, and patched him up. Offered to call his parents, drive them home, etc. They declined, thanked me and left. A few hours later, dad is banging on my door asking why I thought it was ok to let a child I didn’t know into my home.
Motherfucker…why is your teenager not trained not to knock on strangers doors then go into their home if that’s your position? I sincerely can’t stand people. You can’t even be fucking human anymore. So demoralizing. Am I crazy?????
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