@PayzeeMalika They're not. Both are examples of culturally enshrined genital cutting that violate bodily autonomy. By separating the two, you are weakening the argument against both. The argument is much stronger if it is against ALL non-consensual genital cutting.
@ChooseIntact Ironically, the WHO does recognize that consent is important for VMMC of adolescent boys. "health care providers should seek to postpone non-emergency invasive and irreversible interventions until the child is sufficiently mature to provide informed consent."
@K_Kev_ @CuttersShame Exactly this. I don't think most parents would be able to handle it, and would probably put a stop to it after the first horrific scream. And then word would spread like wildfire, and circumcision would be condemned.
@BradSto15370864 @JamesDo35072671 @nathaliejacoby1 This study finds it's an average of 100+ per year:
https://t.co/KLAvLE5ozU
But even one baby dying from an unnecessary genital surgery is too many. And of course the medical industry doesn't keep data on this because of how bad it would make them look, so we really have no idea.
@MRBK51@AppX56352307 @hagmire84 @RealTBaggins@mostlypeaceful@AOC Good you're at least against circumcision as well. But I think your view of FGM isn't rooted in reality. Most FGM performed worldwide is of the type IV in the image you linked. This means that it's most often less severe than circumcision. The other types are extremely rare.
@MRBK51@AppX56352307 @hagmire84 @RealTBaggins@mostlypeaceful@AOC If it's all about pain, then I assume you're equally against circumcision? Considering most circumcisions in the US are done without any anesthesia whatsoever, if all you're considering is the pain aspect, then it is just as bad. Many babies go into shock from the pain of circ.
@relaxedhuman Yeah, they literally said that the benefits aren't great enough to warrant routine infant circumcision, but are enough to warrant insurance covering it. If that statement doesn't make it obvious they just want to make money off it, then I don't know what does.
@BloodstainedMen It's just too bad that he can't talk about his views on circumcision if he ever wants to have a political career. He tried in the past, and it didn't go well for him. Hopefully in the future he'll be able to be more vocal about it without having it affect his political career.
@_Terricka I don't see how those two examples are connected? Body shaming is okay if you got a cosmetic butt surgery, and body shaming is also okay if you DIDN'T get a cosmetic penile surgery?
@MRBK51 @hagmire84 @RealTBaggins@mostlypeaceful@AOC Circumcision is indeed worse than some forms of FGM, and likely the ones performed in the US. FGM performed in the US is done exclusively for religious reasons, and is pretty much exclusively ritual nicking, which is less severe, such as by the dawoodi bohra, a sect of Islam.
@IiiMancino @DPO_az@NaturallyFTW In countries where circumcision isn't routinely performed, the adult circumcision rate is most often less than a percent. How anyone's genitals look really shouldn't be that much of a concern to warrant surgery.
@MRBK51 @hagmire84 @RealTBaggins@mostlypeaceful@AOC The type of FGM performed in the US is likely less severe than circumcision. It is most likely type IV FGM, which includes ritual nicking and pricking, mainly done for religious reasons. Meanwhile, thousands of boys every day go through something more severe than that.