35 years ago, this was the standard line from ELCA types. "The LCMS is a bunch of rigid fundamentalists, basically a sect. They don't matter."
Today, the LCMS has more people in its pews on a given Sunday than the ELCA, despite our demographic decline. Throughout the world, the more that young Lutheran church bodies embrace their confessional identity, the more they grow. The supposedly "mainstream" Lutherans have zero cultural footprint. Their church bodies are rapidly dying. No online presence, no impact anywhere. The only time they ever make the news is when one of their "churches" becomes the first to "ordain" an openly polypanmorphicsexual, only to be outwoked a week later by one of three or four other progressive denominations. Within a day, nobody remembers which was which and nobody cares.
Virtually everyone who encounters Lutheranism online is encountering "fundamentalist" "rigid" Confessional Lutherans. The vast majority of new Lutherans in the world are confessionals while "Mainstream" Lutheranism is a walking corpse still muttering the same mid 90s self-affirmation cliches in the mirror.
This is just David’s bitterness that evangelicals largely rejected him and his hectoring. This is just sour grapes that they did not submit to his wagging finger..
.@JonahDispatch’s personal attacks are meant to intimidate you from questioning him or further illustrating how wrong he is.
It doesn’t work anymore, but they’ll keep trying it because establishment reputation is the only fig leaf of credibility they have left.
Jonah, the “intellectual Nerf bat” here is your inability to draw a distinction between what the constitution protects regarding religious liberty and the worldview that INSPIRED that protection, which was explicitly Christian, as Charlie Kirk so ably demonstrated here.
The American Founding was the political fruit of a people formed by Scripture, church, and a Christian account of man, which includes that we are created equal, born fallen, accountable to God, and endowed with rights no king may revoke.
John Adams made the point EXPLICITLY when he told Jefferson that “the general principles on which the fathers achieved independence were the general principles of Christianity,” and that those principles are “as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God.” (Perhaps you have not read this?)
That is WHY the Declaration speaks of a Creator, of Nature’s God, and of rights that are unalienable rather than granted by Parliament.
A Christian worldview supplied the moral architecture that religious liberty is not something the government permits us and it also recognized that government itself is limited because it stands under the higher moral law of the Creator.
James Madison also illustrated why the founders protected religious liberty the Virginia Declaration of Rights when he wrote that “Religion or the duty which we owe to our Creator and the manner of discharging it, can be directed only by reason and conviction, not by force or violence.”
They even knew such a constitution cannot survive a people who have abandoned the habits of Christianity. (Or what morality did you think Adams was referring to in his oft-quoted line, “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”)
Washington said the same in his Farewell Address (“Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, Religion and morality are indispensable supports.”)
So I suggest a little more reading and that you try to think in distinctions between cause and effect.
In just the last decade, Ohio State has played non-conference games against:
-Oklahoma x2
-TCU
-Notre Dame x2
-Oregon
-Texas x2 (incl tonight)
With future home & homes scheduled against Alabama and Georgia.
So in other words, you’re wrong.