Ioana 🇹🇩

non-religious Humanist, freedom lover

[Ioana 🇹🇩 @ioanapas81]

@CostelloWilliam It's a gesture that calls for a certain degree of reciprocity.
If it comes too early, I 'd find it scary, if from someone I already find attractive it might increase my attraction. I think the same applies to many other situations where men express their interest bluntly.

[Ioana 🇹🇩 @ioanapas81]

@CostelloWilliam I voted 'off-putting,' but it made me think for a bit. I think the answer depends on how attractive I already find the guy in question. I see it as a gesture of intimacy—almost like stepping into someone's personal space.

[Ioana 🇹🇩 @ioanapas81]

A viewpoint on the Alex Pretti incident: Horrific!

If in Renee’s case there were at least some arguments to be made for self-defense or for protecting colleagues, here the officers’ reaction is clearly disproportionate to the threat. Based on the footage I’ve seen, they fired after one of the officers had already taken Alex’s gun (which he never drew) and was moving away with it.

The moment the agent drew the gun could be the trigger for the shots, but that still only shows the lack of professionalism and hyperreactivity of the agents—did they get scared at the sight of a gun that was never in the hands of the person being shot?

The common element with Renee’s case is the way group dynamics seem to contribute to escalation, making officers more willing to use force and to take risks. This last point is important, because it’s not only about excessive use of force, but also about engaging in actions that endanger everyone present (including the officers themselves) and that suggest a constant overestimation of threats.

More specifically: it might make sense to storm a car with a driver inside, hang onto the door with your bare hands, and have a colleague stop retreating to block the driver’s exit (as in Renee’s case) if you had clear information that there was a bomb in that car about to explode into a crowd, or that it was heading into a Christmas market. You might fire ten shots at a suspect pinned down by five officers if there were a real risk that he could press a button and blow up a building. None of that applies here.

In short, these guys are behaving as if they’re living in an action movie, fighting dangerous terrorists in some far-off theater of operations, or external enemies threatening national security. Ordinary citizens are treated as an out-group — “the others,” the enemy — which can only lead to greater entitlement when it comes to the use of force.

Unfortunately, this aligns disturbingly well with the official narrative.

[Ioana 🇹🇩 @ioanapas81]

@AmerykaForum @AmySwearer She smiles as she turns right, in order to leave. Her hands are on the steer wheel. She smiled before, as he was circling the vehicle, I read is as an appeasing technique. She is far less confrontational than her partner.

[Ioana 🇹🇩 @ioanapas81]

@AmySwearer If not, how did he know she was intending to accelerate? If yes, why did he stop to shoot her instead of making one more step to the side of the vehicle?

[Ioana 🇹🇩 @ioanapas81]

@AmySwearer Silly questions. She got scared when the other guy came towards the car, displaying clear signs of anger and telling her to get out of the `fucking car". Is this a professional behavior? One is entitled to shoot when gets scared the other one is not allowed to leave.

[Ioana 🇹🇩 @ioanapas81]

@AmySwearer By the way, when did the officer get scared that she would run over him? He only passed through the front of the car. His bodycam records her steering the wheel to the right, as he moves in the opposite direction. Did he saw her steering the wheel?

[Ioana 🇹🇩 @ioanapas81]

@Brad48656070 @KyleSeraphin @esjesjesj Oh, I saw him walking right after the incident. He didn t have to guess, his bodycam recorded her steering to the right- if he saw that, he only had to take a step to the left. I think he was annoyed because of the other woman rather than afraid. I rest my case.

[Ioana 🇹🇩 @ioanapas81]

@Brad48656070 @KyleSeraphin @esjesjesj Yes, she steered enough to avoid injuring him. He is the one alive and well.

[Ioana 🇹🇩 @ioanapas81]

@michaelshermer @CathyYoung63 Also, what made him think that she would run over him, as her partner was still outside the car? Did he see her steering the wheel to the right, the opposite direction to the one he was moving to?

[Ioana 🇹🇩 @ioanapas81]

@Brad48656070 @KyleSeraphin @esjesjesj At 0:12 she is calmly steering to the right so he probably didn t point the gun yet. He keeps moving to her left, opposite to the car angle. At 0:13 the car is moving closer to him and the angle changes. But the car doesn t hit him frontally as it was already turned to the right.

[Ioana 🇹🇩 @ioanapas81]

@Brad48656070 @KyleSeraphin @esjesjesj No angle shows the precise moment when he pointed the gun. One could also argue that she didn't "hit" the agent, as the agent has no significant injuries.

[Ioana 🇹🇩 @ioanapas81]

@Brad48656070 @KyleSeraphin @esjesjesj How do you know the precise moment when he pointed the gun? The footage shows her steering to the right while he was still recording and moving towards his right/her left.

[Ioana 🇹🇩 @ioanapas81]

@protakill @KyleSeraphin @esjesjesj Nothing was reasonable in that shooting. I still don t get how is easier to shoot someone than take a step aside. It matters how she turned the wheel cause it helps predict the trajectory of the car. His body cam registered it, he saw her preparing the car to turn right and leave

[Ioana 🇹🇩 @ioanapas81]

@Brad48656070 @KyleSeraphin @esjesjesj Or WHY did he stop to shoot her instead of keeping to move to the left? Did he expected the car to stop the very second he shot her? How dumb is THIS, ha?

[Ioana 🇹🇩 @ioanapas81]

@Brad48656070 @KyleSeraphin @esjesjesj I might sound dumb for someone not used to think much. Look again at the last footage. Do you see her pulling the wheel to her right, while he moves to the left? Can you explain WHEN did he get as scared as to shoot her, when they moved in opposite direction?

[Ioana 🇹🇩 @ioanapas81]

@KyleSeraphin @esjesjesj But the vehicle moved anyway after the shooting. Did he expected it to stop? It would have been wiser for him to take one more step to the left, rather than stop and shoot her (he was already moving to left)

[Ioana 🇹🇩 @ioanapas81]

@dstdtmd @shipwreckedcrew Question is whether he saw her turning to the right as the footage shows. If he knew he was safe when he shot .

[Ioana 🇹🇩 @ioanapas81]

@shipwreckedcrew Except the officer wasn t standing still in front of the car, but was moving towards her left. He had already circled her vehicle once. She just pointed to her right, expecting him to move forward to the left. What he did, thats why he wasn t run over.

[Ioana 🇹🇩 @ioanapas81]

@megynkelly If he fired AFTER he was hit, it was not self defense, but revenge.