@tls_567@KarlMarxFan17 So that's why a teenager fresh out of high school joins the military? They just can't wait to go rape and pillage? Not because of propaganda and the illusions liberal democracy sells?
@MoscowWillBurn@AdamSmitzz@realjewishlarry Where did I say I support what Russia is doing? This is exactly the issue I am talking about. If you're against the war, against NATO expansion in order to avoid Russian agitation and aggression, that means you are a Russia sympathizer and love Putin
@MoscowWillBurn@AdamSmitzz@realjewishlarry That's a different sublejct,This is about post USSR Russia. And saying NATO stands for whatever ur saying is the most braindead analysis of global politics lmfao
@AdamSmitzz@realjewishlarry Huh? Im antirussia. Spheres of influence are a reality of the world under capitalism and imperialism functions, so thats the lense to look at how states act. I support neither NATO nor Russia, but rather national sovereignty, which is antithetical to both of them.
@AdamSmitzz@realjewishlarry And again the reaction to what I'm saying being basically framing me as a Russia sympathizer is the issue. I sympathize with the people, and I think ending the war should be the main priority, instead of strongly opposing diplomacy.
@AdamSmitzz@realjewishlarry Europe and Ukraine leaders knows they can't take back the lost territory, they know they can't win. Completely cutting diplomacy obviously means we want the war to keep going, despite being an impossible war, while sending Ukranians, instead of Europeans, to die in it.
@tls_567@KarlMarxFan17 So the only path towards redemption is not rehabilitation and self reflection about yourself and the systems lies uve been fed, and attempt to make political change in that very system, but rather to commit suicide?
@AdamSmitzz@realjewishlarry The war definitely increased NATO popularity. Most Ukranians were against joining NATO pre-2014. Again Im not defending Russia's actions but simply saying NATO acting gullible and playing victim is not the correct way to look at it. Imo both NATO and Russia are malignant forces
@tls_567@KarlMarxFan17 I admit that is true. But why do you think those voluntary Marines joined in the first place if not bcuz of alienation and agitation? And that their time in service couldn't have drastically changed their world view?
@Nwolisa247243@realjewishlarry Because Europe kept posturing that Ukraine "will become a member of the alliance" in the future, despite Russia explicitly saying that they will not allow that. Ukraine also, understandably so, doubled military force around that time too.